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Old 02-19-2019, 04:48 PM   #31
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I don't claim to be smarter than the engineers. They put that thing together that way for a reason.
There's something to be said for the right tool for the job.
If they put good suspension on typical standards, it might make more sense to buy them.

However, it's typically crap. It's usually cheaper to put dirtybars on a sprotbile than it is to put good boingers on a standard.
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Old 02-19-2019, 07:47 PM   #32
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If they put good suspension on typical standards, it might make more sense to buy them.

However, it's typically crap. It's usually cheaper to put dirtybars on a sprotbile than it is to put good boingers on a standard.
Of all the handlebar converted sport bikes I have ridden, they're never as comfortable as a bike with a comprehensive ergonomics change. Unless you move the seat and rearsets, you just get an awkward rider triangle.

Also, glad the OP got shit sorted. Sorry it cost you a clutch job.
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Old 02-19-2019, 09:07 PM   #33
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I don't claim to be smarter than the engineers. They put that thing together that way for a reason.
There's something to be said for the right tool for the job.
Manufacturers will simple give the people what that want. Problem is buyers and marketing are often not as smart as the engineers.
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Old 02-19-2019, 09:50 PM   #34
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I don't claim to be smarter than the engineers. They put that thing together that way for a reason.
There's something to be said for the right tool for the job.
I had a somewhat serious neck injury that has made some bikes absolutely grueling to ride on longer rides. I refused to give up bikes like my 916, R1, and some others for years, then modified the bars on some, with success.

But some of those efforts were just not to be, and now I just ride bikes that don't require "looking up" all the time, which I find excruciating.

The 916 was dreadfully uncomfortable, basically engineered for a long-armed midget, but I couldn't stand not to ride it. Kind of a difficult relationship, me and that bike. I finally sold it to a 30 year old long-armed midget, with a rubber spine, and he's happy as a clam.

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I was looking at a carbon HJC today and impressed with how light it was. If I didn't already have two Arai's I would have bought it.
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Of all the handlebar converted sport bikes I have ridden, they're never as comfortable as a bike with a comprehensive ergonomics change. Unless you move the seat and rearsets, you just get an awkward rider triangle.

Also, glad the OP got shit sorted. Sorry it cost you a clutch job.
I often do all of that. My SV has bars (fairly low though), a higher seat, and rearsets. Plus GSXR forks (reworked) and a Penske etc.

Only downside is I can barely flatfoot it at 6'2" 190lb 34" inseam.
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I was looking at a carbon HJC today and impressed with how light it was. If I didn't already have two Arai's I would have bought it.
Carbon seems to be the one that works best. I had a Lazer Carbon, but the 2nd time I wore it, it sacrificed itself to save my face. (Muni railway raised curb)
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I often do all of that. My SV has bars (fairly low though), a higher seat, and rearsets. Plus GSXR forks (reworked) and a Penske etc.

Only downside is I can barely flatfoot it at 6'2" 190lb 34" inseam.
ADV or GTFO.

That's always the dilemma. Proper ergos frequently result in tall seat height. The same seems to hold true for mountain bikes as well. I am thankful for my dropper post, though. I wish that were on option for bikes.
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yeah, the seat height isn't a problem for me but for some people it would be

I considered having the WR450 lowered a bit when I had the suspension done for SM but decided against it. Given the significant decrease in sag vs before it's gonna be TALL when I put it back on dirt wheels.
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I don't claim to be smarter than the engineers. They put that thing together that way for a reason.
There's something to be said for the right tool for the job.
What's your job?
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Old 02-20-2019, 09:26 AM   #41
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I picked up a used Bandit 1200 for $2600 several years ago for all of the valid reasons described above. It's been my workhorse. A two wheeled station wagon. It does all 2 up duties, lots of commuting and has even done a track day or two. It still surprises me how often I walk past my *fun* bikes on my way to my trusty Bandit. I get it. Trust me.
That said, the last thing I would do is raise the center of gravity on such a purpose built machine.....but clearly that's just me.
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Not sure how I'm supposed to take this but on the surface don't like the way it smells. Calling me a tool because I don't endorse putting apes on a sportbike??
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