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Old 02-19-2019, 10:34 AM   #1
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Anyone ever done a Showerloop for your trailer/camping?

Been eyeballing a setup like this for the cargo trailer I just picked up
https://www.instructables.com/id/Showerloop/

I would rather not deal with the hassle of installing fresh/grey water tanks in the trailer. If I could do a self-contained shower like this, it would make camping (away from the track, especially) much easier.

A lot of you have 100x the handyman experience I do. Have any of you done something similar? How'd it turn out?
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Old 02-19-2019, 01:36 PM   #2
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Still looks pretty big and involved. I could see investing in something like that if i were going to spend months at a time in resource scarce areas. But my usual mode is to just get a motel room every few days.
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Old 02-19-2019, 01:42 PM   #3
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If I were attempting this project, I'd get rid of all the fancy acrylic stuff that requires CNC. I'd use ugly PVC with simple connectors. Separate the media with screens (which require low-tech scissors). An especially clever person would use a threaded cap on top, which would allow inspection/replacement of the filtration media. I would just seal the whole thing with glue and build a new one in ten years.

What are you thinking about for the process? I imagine it's something like: Heat up water (stove or water heater), pour it into the shower, hit the go button and "Shower on, Wayne!" And after the shower you open a drain valve outside.

I would also think about the wet filtration media sitting for a few months while damp. Sounds like a mold nightmare. Not a problem on a shower used daily, but it could be a problem for your setup. I don't have a good solution for that, other than doing a bleach flush before any storage.

It sounds like a fun project! Good luck.
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Old 02-19-2019, 01:42 PM   #4
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^^ Not much more involved than installing a regular shower in a trailer, really. Just more compact and some different design methodologies. Plus the added benefit of not needing the frequently dump grey water (or deal with Thunderhill''s swamp water )

^ Yea, the not-used-everyday issue of algae buildup could be problematic. Possibly solved by a flush with mild chlorine/bleach before storage.

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Old 02-19-2019, 03:40 PM   #5
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Seems like an interesting idea for water scarce california homes, especially if you have a daughter (or son) who love to take a long shower. Fit in a filter and instantaneous heater element to keep the water at the right temp and you've got a device that would reduce water usage.
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Old 02-19-2019, 04:23 PM   #6
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One look at that thing made me wonder what it was made to distill.
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Old 02-19-2019, 04:30 PM   #7
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I've considered adding this to my cargo trailer:

https://www.roadshower.com
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Old 02-19-2019, 05:20 PM   #8
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Pretty cool and has a lot of potential in concept. But (and not to be negative) also complicated and has the potential to need a lot of maintenance, and take up a lot of room. I also have to wonder about flow levels, water pressure, temperature, bacteria, etc.

I have a Sprinter with a 25-gallon fresh water tank, no grey water tank, and on-demand hot water through an ESPAR hydronic unit. The shower is a hand held unit off the back. Works great and doesn't take up much room.

That said, I'm a fan of the KISS rule. Throw a couple solar showers in that trailer and call it good?
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Old 02-20-2019, 07:53 AM   #9
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Ideally the setup would be to have something that everyone could shower with (2-6 people) for 2-7 days and not need to fill/dump the water. The kits I've seen have been as small as fitting in a 3x3' square, including the shower. I read that bacteria could be managed via measured doses of chlorine while not in use.

Aside from changing the filters periodically, how would it be any more complicated or failure prone than a standard RV/Trailer shower setup?
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Old 02-20-2019, 08:19 AM   #10
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Just race at Laguna and Buttonwillow, they have showers, problem solved.
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I was thinking solo when I made my suggestion. What do you have available to heat the water? (Electrical/propane/diesel?).

If you have shore power available, I'd use an instant hot water heater at the shower head. If you have an onboard power inverter, you might be able to run a point-of-use tank water heater.

The roadshower gives me an idea, that you could put a black ABS pipe on the roof to heat the water up during the day, if you're parked in sunlight. You would pump the water up there after the showers are done so it heats up again the next day. The last person through is probably going to have a lukewarm shower, though.
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Old 02-20-2019, 09:07 AM   #12
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Water is very heavy. For most RVs and trailers that don't have much slope to the roof, the lack of incline can cause lots of problems when enough weight for a hot shower is put up there.

Why not just get one of those propane fired portable hot water heaters? A couple hundred bucks and you'll have plenty of hot water anywhere you have a water and propane supply. You can put those things in your SUV or car although the propane isn't ideally transported in closed vehicles. Those water heaters are small and easily setup (minutes) and are pretty efficient.

You'll end up spending cost to that trying to fabricate something that barely works and later becomes a maintenance problem.

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Old 02-20-2019, 10:09 AM   #13
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Ideally the setup would be to have something that everyone could shower with (2-6 people) for 2-7 days and not need to fill/dump the water. The kits I've seen have been as small as fitting in a 3x3' square, including the shower. I read that bacteria could be managed via measured doses of chlorine while not in use.

Aside from changing the filters periodically, how would it be any more complicated or failure prone than a standard RV/Trailer shower setup?
It's a super cool idea with a lot of potential, and it sounds like you've been doing some good research. For that volume it sounds like you'd be asking a lot from those filters, so hopefully that part is figured out. Conceptually, and I'm not sure I'd want to shower in the run-off from 5 of my buddies for a week, chlorine or otherwise. (Actually I don't even really want to shower in my [I]own[I] run-off like that.)

But hey, stranger things have turned out to be awesome and revolutionary. And certainly you might not need it every day, especially if there are lakes, rivers, and an ocean around. Give it a go and let us know how it goes!
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Old 02-20-2019, 05:47 PM   #14
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Keep it simple, buy a garden sprayer and leave it sitting in the sun for a few hours. Gives a decent shower with only a gallon of water or so.

Most places a gallon or two of grey water on the ground won't bother anyone.
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Old 02-20-2019, 09:32 PM   #15
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Still looks pretty big and involved. I could see investing in something like that if i were going to spend months at a time in resource scarce areas. But my usual mode is to just get a motel room every few days.
If you need to save money or like camping out service station bathroom/WashCloth/Toothbrush... etc. You can even wash your hair with a gob of soap and a tin cup in a river if your in the deep backcountry.

I do the camp 2 nights, then motel cheapo on the 3rd night, at least until I am sick of sleeping in the dirt, on a roll of foam. Then it's Best Western all the way.

That shower gizmo is nice but not as practical and compact as one of those camp shower bags you hang up in a tree. If that's the kind of thing you're looking for.

I've seen surfers using this kind of thing, too. Looks OK. https://goo.gl/PDURf3

This one has some intriguing features, but some features shown may not be included due to CA regulations, which are tremendously restrictive.
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