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Old 08-03-2020, 08:27 PM   #16
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No, any modification that alters the NOx or CO2 output and thus isn't approved for use in the state for an on-road vehicle is considered tampering. There are plenty of things you can do to your vehicle without altering the smog control devices.

Just a cursory check showed me multiple Prius aftermarket CARB-approved converters. What year is your Prius? And no, they're not always expensive although that can be relative. An OEM version will cost you thousands whereas the aftermarket units are a typically a few hundred bucks. Expensive? Perhaps. But it's a hell of a lot cheaper than an OEM unit.
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Old 08-04-2020, 12:42 PM   #17
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California the land of no fun. Smog nazis make it harder for tuners and companies.

My catalytic converter got stolen few months back on my Prius and we can't buy federal cats here because California has their own special CARB approved cats and no one but Toyota sells them apparently. So new cats are like $2000 you can get a Fed cat for like $200.

I like clean air but sometimes CARB is just rediculous.

I have a 1998 Mitusbishi Eclipse and it's a bitch trying to find a smog test station for older than 2000 cars now. Carb or BAR made some kind of update to the smog machines and it's costing the smog station like $20,000 to do it so a lot of shops just stopped smogging older vehicles because of this. This is their trick to get rid of 90's vehicles.

Pretty soon we'll just be driving electric cars...

Like generators too you have to buy a CARB compliant generator
Everything with an engine has to be CARB compliant nowadays. Chainsaws, lawn mowers, string trimmers, everything. CARB compliance is not cheap to obtain either. Meeting the specs isn't that hard these days, but it sure is spendy! Last I checked if a motorcycle manufacturer wants to get a cert, it's $20K per model, and CARB completes it when they feel like it. Same goes for air intakes on cars, that's why Injen, a CA company, barely has any CA legal intakes left on the market, they'll never recover that money. The whole cat converter thing is a scam as well. The difference between a federal and CARB approved cat? Money paid to CARB to get that EO number. That's it. Functionally identical. CARB, and Mary Nichols can f right the hell off.

With that rant aside, I'm 100% a-ok with loud exhausts dying off forever. Dedicated track bike? Sure, why not, but not on the street. the Euro compliant exhausts seem alright though, as they're barely louder than stock. Like sckego, I live in the hills, and it's a nightmare now. Even when they're miles away, I can still hear them buzzing/rumbling around. Haven't had a peaceful hike in years, or a relaxing weekend for that matter. Can't even enjoy a movie, have to wait until well after 9PM. I'd personally start writing checks to CHP officers to enforce sound ordinances on the weekends, and pop every last obnoxious bike and car.

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Old 08-08-2020, 07:56 AM   #18
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Not fined, shaked down. CARB doesn't have any authority over a business in Philadelphia with warehouses there and Las Vegas.

I guess they must have stupidly sold non-compliant parts at a California brick and mortar Cycle Gear?
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Wrong. No business can offer non-compliant parts for sale with shipping to California. It doesn't matter where they're physically located.

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California law prohibits the advertising, sale, distribution, and delivery of parts that alter emissions control systems of vehicles unless these parts have first been exempted by CARB and are proven not to increase smog-forming emissions. These laws apply to all manufacturers, distributors, dealers, installers, and retailers, even if they do not manufacture the products themselves, or are located outside of California.
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Old 08-08-2020, 03:11 PM   #20
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Now if I could just snap my fingers at CARB...

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