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Old 04-05-2013, 12:39 PM   #16
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Something (anything) is better than nothing, but there's definitely room for improvement. Having to creep along at 30 MPH in traffic on the freeway sucks balls. If I lived in Nevada I would advocate for elimination of a concrete limit in favor of something along the lines of the CA basic speed law applied to splitting. As long as you're being safe, you should be fine.
The problem is that legislators like to be able to define everything. "Safe" is in the eye of the beholder.

A bit of an update on AB236. The bill went to the Transportation Committee late last week, which is chaired by Carrillo, one of the co-sponsors of the bill. Writeup and video here. Gnarly quote from one of the opposing legislators, Assemblywoman Carlton: "I’m picturing a scenario, I’m on the highway, we’re going down… 25 miles an hour, I’ve got a kid in the back seat. They roll the window down, they stick their arm out, my kid ends up with a broken arm, the motorcyclist’s guts end up all over the back of my car. Uhm… it just doesn’t seem to me to make a lot of sense. I’m sorry, it doesn’t. It just seems like a very dangerous thing to be doing."

Another disturbing bit: they're talking about adding a something to the bill that would make accidents that occur during splitting the fault of the motorcyclist by default. No details on this yet, and not sure it would actually fly, but Assemblyman Daly said "…on the liability side, talking with people in law enforcement is that if there was an accident, and the lane splitting, that they would cite the motorcyclist anyway, say it was his fault. So we was just looking at it a little more in the… trying to give people a little more peace of mind to say that, if a person decides to do the lane splitting, you do so at your own risk. So we just want to make it clear that, you know, we’re not trying to put anybody on the hook, or get the regular people in their cars to have additional liability ’cause someone else… you know, did something else."

So if that's added and this bill is passed and you’re splitting lanes legally – cautiously and prudently as required by the new law – and a driver hits you, it’s your fault because we can’t have “regular people” (which apparently doesn’t include motorcyclists) being “on the hook” to be aware of their surroundings and check their mirrors to avoid “additional liability” if they hit a rider who’s doing “something else.” Something else being lane splitting, which would be legal. Isn’t not hitting other drivers something all drivers are already on the hook for? No bueno.

Anyway, check out the video and presentations from the meeting here.
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Old 04-07-2013, 01:29 PM   #17
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WOW, I was happy to read NV is trying to do something for motorcyclists but the at fault part is total BS.
From experience, creeping up I-15 past the Strip at 3pm in August on a bike is almost torture. The heat isn't so bad as long as you are moving, so If this bill will allow me to keep riding to the front of the line at a stoplight or not have to stop on the fwy then I am all for that. Some of the intersections take 3-4 cycles to get all traffic through.
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Old 04-07-2013, 07:44 PM   #18
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WOW, I was happy to read NV is trying to do something for motorcyclists but the at fault part is total BS.
From experience, creeping up I-15 past the Strip at 3pm in August on a bike is almost torture. The heat isn't so bad as long as you are moving, so If this bill will allow me to keep riding to the front of the line at a stoplight or not have to stop on the fwy then I am all for that. Some of the intersections take 3-4 cycles to get all traffic through.


this sounds like a very good reason to take another way home.
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Old 04-11-2013, 04:02 PM   #19
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Making progress in Nevada! AB236 passed the Assembly Transportation Committee today with slight amendments and limited opposition. Full story here.
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Old 04-19-2013, 07:13 AM   #20
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AB236 has passed the Nevada Assembly with very strong support. Next up, the state Senate - hopefully with just as much support.
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in the version sent up to get a vote did they remove the part were it is ok to use your cage to hit a moto?
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in the version sent up to get a vote did they remove the part were it is ok to use your cage to hit a moto?
Nothing has been specifically written in on that (yet?). All that was verbal so far.
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I'm very passionate about lane splitting. Just wish I had more time work on this stuff.
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for me lane splitting is almost a what is that kinda thing.
where i live it is not possible due to no multi lane roads in my county.
yes i live in Ca.....hell my county only has four yes "4" signals.

but good to hear that Nv is getting in the swing of it.
any links to the final wording would be nice to read.

and hope they removed the wording about ok to take out a moto and it would be the motos fault.


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for me lane splitting is almost a what is that kinda thing.
where i live it is not possible due to no multi lane roads in my county.
yes i live in Ca.....hell my county only has four yes "4" signals.

but good to hear that Nv is getting in the swing of it.
any links to the final wording would be nice to read.

and hope they removed the wording about ok to take out a moto and it would be the motos fault.
As I mentioned, nothing is actually written in about that. The latest public amended version is here. I don't see any new meetings referencing AB236 yet, and I'm trying to get status on the bill. As of right now, I got nothin' else.
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AB236 has passed the Senate Trans Committee, unfortunately in a neutered and limited form: splitting would be allowed at 10 MPH or less, in stopped traffic only.

Next step: on to a vote in the full Senate.
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