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Old 04-03-2019, 02:12 PM   #1
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Stay Back 200 Feet - Not Responsible for Broken Windshield

I was under the impression that anything that falls off your vehicle and causes damage is on you/your insurance.
I see lots of signs on the back of trucks stating to stay back X number of feet and that they're not responsible for broken windshields. I'm pretty sure the signs are complete and utter bullshit but wanted to ask a professional.

Are the signs accurate?

If not, I think it's ridiculous they're allowed to lie to the public like that.
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Old 04-03-2019, 02:24 PM   #2
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Yes. Ridiculius that someone would be allowed to lie! Let's pass a law that makes lying illegal! Who cares about the pesky first amendment! Honesty is more important!!
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Old 04-03-2019, 02:26 PM   #3
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I'm pretty sure this comes under both "securing load" laws, as well as littering from motor vehicles which states that the only allowable substances that can be discharged from a vehicle are clear water and chicken feathers.

This is probably there to try and convince people not to report incidents.
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Old 04-03-2019, 04:23 PM   #4
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I'm pretty sure this comes under both "securing load" laws, as well as littering from motor vehicles which states that the only allowable substances that can be discharged from a vehicle are clear water and chicken feathers.

This is probably there to try and convince people not to report incidents.
Not just that. Semis, even with mudguards, sometimes kick up rocks from the road and send them back.

Something like that would be a civil matter. Sure, they're liable. But can you prove it? They will claim that they're just being targeted because they are a large truck. If it's only a cracked windshield, for example, is it worth the time and effort?

They probably post the signs to discourage claims.
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I've seen that sign on several trucks recently. I'm wondering how you're supposed to pass them while still staying back 200 feet.
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Old 04-03-2019, 05:56 PM   #6
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Securing a load and a tire kicking up rocks are not the same thing.
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I can't imagine being liable for a tire kicking up rocks if you have mud flaps down to required height and are driving reasonably but

I also can't imagine those signs being worth the paper they're printed on, other than discouraging claims
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Old 04-04-2019, 02:16 AM   #8
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There’s a dickhead driving around with a giant “Caution: stay back” sticker on the back of his car in east bay.

He gets pissed if you get within a couple car lengths of him.

Fucking loony.
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I was heading north on 280 just past the 85 overpass.
A concrete truck hit a bump in the road in front of me.
And some rocks fell off and cracked my windshield.
I took a picture of the name on the truck door.
Noted the time. And direction of travel. Called them later and
The secretary said there trucks are clean and told me to F. OFF
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I was following one on 85 and it's tail wasn't closed fully - it was showering bucketloads onto the freeway. Luckily another semi flashed him and maybe CB'd him (if those still exist) and he pulled off the road.
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Securing a load and a tire kicking up rocks are not the same thing.
True, but sometimes you feel like you are following a comet when you get within 1/4 mile of one of the quarry trucks. Obviously you can't prove whether the specific stone that smashed your windshield was flicked up or dropped, and they rely on that.
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I had a claim over 20 years ago after the plumbing company truck in front of me dropped a load of pipe. One bounced up and dug a nice straight channel up the hood to the wiper, tore that off and adjusted the trajectory just enough to send a spiderweb of cracks through the windshield.

'Same insurance company covered me and the truck.

They decided it was "road debris" since it touched the ground before it hit my car (I described it how I saw it, maybe I should have kept my mouth shut). I also had to pay my deductible and it was counted as an "at fault" on my record.

It was explained that they considered a road hazard "avoidable".
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I had a claim over 20 years ago after the plumbing company truck in front of me dropped a load of pipe. One bounced up and dug a nice straight channel up the hood to the wiper, tore that off and adjusted the trajectory just enough to send a spiderweb of cracks through the windshield.

'Same insurance company covered me and the truck.

They decided it was "road debris" since it touched the ground before it hit my car (I described it how I saw it, maybe I should have kept my mouth shut). I also had to pay my deductible and it was counted as an "at fault" on my record.

It was explained that they considered a road hazard "avoidable".
I hope they're not your insurance company any more.
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The signs are a lie. They are absolutely liable... if you can prove it.

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