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Old 06-16-2019, 12:15 PM   #1
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Whodat stars in the Iron Butt Rally

For those unfamiliar, one of our BARFers has ridden 3 Iron Butt Rallies and intends to start his 4th tomorrow. To be a finisher of THE RALLY, you must ride at least 11,000 miles in 11 days. Most riders go farther, and the winners generally do it more efficiently than the rest. This can be described as a "treasure hunt" type rally where the riders must visit certain places or solve small puzzles to gather points.

I've started this thread for discussion of this year's Iron Butt Rally and the various topics that it brings into everyday motorcycling and such.

The Iron Butt Rally is an individual participant event. For those reasons you will not find it in the typical internet moment-by-moment updates. Mostly, we get a written update by a past Iron Butt Rally participant and some fun stuff people put together long after it all went down (that usually means a day or two.)

Lots of reading to keep up, but it's usually entertaining and informative.

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Old 06-16-2019, 12:32 PM   #2
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Old 06-16-2019, 02:00 PM   #3
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I'm impressed by that auxillary fuel tank.
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Old 06-16-2019, 02:43 PM   #4
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boney thanks for the link! I’ve always had an interest in and respect for these riders of IBR. I just quickly scanned the link and look forward 5o reading more but, and count me as one of the ignorant here bud did read about a rider from the Bay Area named Andy, had an issue with his bike it seems, same guy?
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boney thanks for the link! Iíve always had an interest in and respect for these riders of IBR. I just quickly scanned the link and look forward 5o reading more but, and count me as one of the ignorant here bud did read about a rider from the Bay Area named Andy, had an issue with his bike it seems, same guy?
Yes, Whodat is Andy. He rode his bike to South Carolina so he could ride an 11,000-ish mile rally. Then he'll ride it home. It seems the final drive began to leak oil, and the dealer in Grand Junction was very helpful.

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1200GSA. The final drive started leaking oil all over the rear tire. Yes, if you have followed past IBR reports, you have read about far too many ridersí
hopes and dreams being crushed by the infamous BMW final drive failures. However, in this case, the final drive had about 200,000 miles on it, so maybe it was due.
The rules state that you may not carry a gas-can but you can carry up to 11 gallons of gas total between your fuel tank and a fuel cell. Most of the fuel cells are pre-plumbed to the main tank and pump their contents into the main tank with an auxiallary fuel pump operated manually. Safety and consistency is a concern here, in my opinion, as a fuel cell is mounted and inspected for safety, and a gas can is, well, plastic and disposable, making it harder to track the possession and use of.







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It takes a unique person to do the IBR- I've considered it but it's just such a serious commitment that I haven't stepped up to it yet. Some of these LD riders are amazing in their determination to make miles without stopping... the above fuel tanks being a great example.
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Old 06-16-2019, 04:20 PM   #7
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I don't even think I've done a 1000 miles in a day. O_O you must have an iron butt to do 11 days worth O_O
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Old 06-16-2019, 04:30 PM   #8
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Rooting for Whodat always. Bummer on the troubles.

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BTW, if you've been to Kernville and visited Cyclesmiths motorcycle shop then you may have met Wendy Crockett. She is also riding the Iron Butt. (Her family no longer owns it.)

They started this morning. Follow along here:
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Let it refresh on it's own, please, or the server will blow.
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Old 06-17-2019, 12:30 PM   #10
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Wow, someone is doing this on a '74 Suzuki GT750... two-stroke, 3-cyl.

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Old 06-17-2019, 03:55 PM   #11
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To be a finisher of THE RALLY, you must ride at least 11,000 miles in 11 days. Most riders go farther, and the winners generally do it more efficiently than the rest.
Most riders are on a 1,000+ mile/day pace when riding, but due to quite a few factors, very few actually hit over the 11k mark (only 10 riders in 2015, 17 in 2017, out of 100+ starters). Day 1 and Day 11 are short, there are 2 checkpoints that take a good portion of 2 other days, and 3 other rest bonuses (min 4 hrs). Riders are counted as finishers regardless of miles, but they typically have to score a minimum number of points. This translates roughly to a certain number of miles depending on chosen routes, and there were some finishers in both the 2017 and 2015 events who rode between 7,000 and 8,000 miles. All of the swag does use that tagline ("11 days / 11k miles!"), but that's a rough & optimistic estimate, not a minimum.

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The rules state that you may not carry a gas-can but you can carry up to 11 gallons of gas total between your fuel tank and a fuel cell. Most of the fuel cells are pre-plumbed to the main tank and pump their contents into the main tank with an auxiallary fuel pump operated manually.
There are some setups that require fuel pumps, like those taildraggers; but most of the IBR setups have morphed to simple gravity feed. It's just one less thing to break, with a simple mechanical valve to open to allow the fuel to drain from one tank to the other. The aux fuel is a huge help for rallies like this, and the vast majority of entrants have one set up. If a bike, even a large sport touring type bike, carries 6 gallons - that means you may have only 4.5 - 5 gallons usable, as you need to be worried about finding the next fuel stop with that last bit. Stopping at the side of the road out of gas could destroy a rally with a missed bonus or worse, and by design much of these rallies often puts you in the middle of nowhere, where fuel isn't nearly as plentiful. Adding an aux tank to 10+ gallons (11.5 limit), means you can have more than double the usable range. During the rally it's still rare to get close to zero, but having 400+ mile range on board means you have many more options in routing without worrying about the nearest fuel.

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Old 06-17-2019, 04:13 PM   #12
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One of the changes for this year is the accuracy of the GPS coordinates of the waypoints. In the past few IBRs, the GPS waypoint was pretty much spot-on. If you could get the bike (or yourself) to that point, you were likely standing right on the bonus. This meant that once programmed into your route, you only had to refer back to the bonus book to figure out what you needed to get, after you were already right in the correct spot. For this 2019 event:

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The riders have the bonus information, however, Jeff and the Rallymaster want the riders to carefully read the info and directions listed for each bonus. To help make this happen, the GPS coordinates provided in electronic form are close enough to the bonus locations for general routing, but with few exceptions, the coordinates are not at the exact bonus location. Riders will need to read each bonus description to determine both the directions for the waypoint and the requirements to collect the bonus.
IMO, this is huge. Years back during the Cal24 rally, GPS coordinates were initially given the same way (fuzzy, aiming at center of town rather than the exact location), so riders who weren't using GPS units would have a fair shot. In reality, virtually all were using GPS, but nevertheless, it added to the challenge. As a GPS weenie myself, I was not a fan! What this means is that riders have to really know what the next bonus is by reading ahead in the book, and keep that in mind when they get closer to route themselves past the GPS point to wherever the actual location might be. That could mean 2 stops at some/many bonus locations rather than 1, as well as with the random time it takes to actually find the bonus. A moderate challenge on day 1. A brain-frying challenge as they get deeper into the rally.
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I can just imagine what's going on inside their helmets at the moment! Those are small, crowded, heavily traffic-lighted roads all the way down to Kitty Hawk and beyond. On Day 1 they certainly have a plan in mind, but may already be stressing about making less progress than they expected. Good luck to all the riders! (especially Andy!)

Wait, where the &@*#&@*( is 172?

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I wouldn't have thought they would hop on a boat of some sort at this point, but those GPS coordinates are quite strange. Just prior it looked like they were parked at that Ocracoke Island visitors center.
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