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Community Parking Rules (experiences with your current or former homes)

Mr. White said:
I don't know the history behind HOAs, but they are needed for neighborhoods that have community property like private roads or a shared pool. But there are plenty of neighborhoods that don't have any shared property with HOAs and the HOAs seemingly only enforce rules.
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Mostly their history is fucking awful racist bullshit to make sure, "the negroes," didn't move into your neighborhood.

It just adds to my overall total hostility to these things, but they have strong roots in old redlining practices.
 
Eldritch said:
Mostly their history is fucking awful racist bullshit to make sure, "the negroes," didn't move into your neighborhood.

It just adds to my overall total hostility to these things, but they have strong roots in old redlining practices.
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Some of my HOA complaints, I never wanted to think this way, and in the moment when it happened, I honestly didn't think that way.

When we moved here, we got complaints about air drying our jiu jitsu and karate gis on our balcony railing while I see other homes drying clothes on their balconies or on a hanging line on their balcony everyday.

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when you get complaints is it from the same person that faces both of your drying balconies, or they face only you..

"other homes drying clothes on their balconies or on a hanging line on their balcony everyday" = prime proof of the broken windows theory? :)
 
AbsolutEnduser said:
when you get complaints is it from the same person that faces both of your drying balconies, or they face only you..

"other homes drying clothes on their balconies or on a hanging line on their balcony everyday" = prime proof of the broken windows theory? :)
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All complaints are chickenshit residents complaining to the HOA so when any HOA representative makes a complaint, we don't know who it is, only that the complaint came from the HOA.

It's childish. Like when a kid complains to their mom about something their sibling did expecting mom to handle it for them.
 
Eldritch said:
Mostly their history is fucking awful racist bullshit to make sure, "the negroes," didn't move into your neighborhood.

It just adds to my overall total hostility to these things, but they have strong roots in old redlining practices.
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My cousin got his car towed out of one of ours Due to just that (we think). Not a great car. Half black guy staying with my mom...car towed from guest parking after two days and a neighbor staring when he'd park his car. Then again, my truck got towed from the guest parking for not having a license plate on it by WCPD...and we STILL own the parcel the guest spots are on cause the HOA didn't want to take ownership when we closed the project our three decades ago.

HOA's suck. Huge time.
 
Yeah, I guess a couple of people in here popped up that they like them, but like I said, I have never even lived under one, because the mere idea of them sends me into fits of feels.

I'm just going to stop ranting about them now.
 
There's an HOA meeting tonight at 6pm. I think I'm gonna go, just to listen and see how they operate this time but maybe next month I might raise some of my concerns. I assume absolutely nothing will come of it but at least I can have some warm and fuzzy feelings that I said my piece.

When we moved in, I always wanted to go but it was impossible to make it back here by 6PM from work. Then when Covid started, they moved the meeting to the city town hall or library or something. Now they're having meetings in the community pool area which is 20 steps from my front door, so might as well.
 
Wait, so they’re trying to dictate what you get to park….in your garage? It has to be registered and insured? What if you own a few race bikes? Race cars?

This is another one of those instances where a law limiting what an HOA can do needs to be put in place.

When I lived in Florida, I had a brand new Chevy 1500 extended cab. It was black, tinted windows, nice wheels, well kept. Two days after I brought it home, there was a letter on it from the HOA that I had to park it elsewhere. It wouldn’t fit in the garage. I was told “we have this rule to keep work trucks out of driveways.” It obviously wasn’t a work truck. To my left, one door down was an Ford Excursion. Lifted on some Super Swampers. To my right, two doors down, there was a plumbing van, like a Dodge Ram Van, 2500. I asked “what about these two vehicles? They said “those aren’t trucks.” Really? Nah, fuck off. I’m out. I kept parking in the driveway, told them to fuck off, and put the house on the market. It sold before the fines became big enough to force a lean.

If you can, move. Fuck HOA’s.
 
Kurosaki said:
There's an HOA meeting tonight at 6pm. I think I'm gonna go, just to listen and see how they operate this time but maybe next month I might raise some of my concerns. I assume absolutely nothing will come of it but at least I can have some warm and fuzzy feelings that I said my piece.

When we moved in, I always wanted to go but it was impossible to make it back here by 6PM from work. Then when Covid started, they moved the meeting to the city town hall or library or something. Now they're having meetings in the community pool area which is 20 steps from my front door, so might as well.
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Hey, talking it out at the meeting and with your neighbors might totally help. At least you will be able to get a smell for what flavor of petty tyranny you may be dealing with if not.
 
msethhunter said:
Wait, so they’re trying to dictate what you get to park….in your garage? It has to be registered and insured? What if you own a few race bikes? Race cars?

This is another one of those instances where a law limiting what an HOA can do needs to be put in place.

When I lived in Florida, I had a brand new Chevy 1500 extended cab. It was black, tinted windows, nice wheels, well kept. Two days after I brought it home, there was a letter on it from the HOA that I had to park it elsewhere. It wouldn’t fit in the garage. I was told “we have this rule to keep work trucks out of driveways.” It obviously wasn’t a work truck. To my left, one door down was an Ford Excursion. Lifted on some Super Swampers. To my right, two doors down, there was a plumbing van, like a Dodge Ram Van, 2500. I asked “what about these two vehicles? They said “those aren’t trucks.” Really? Nah, fuck off. I’m out. I kept parking in the driveway, told them to fuck off, and put the house on the market. It sold before the fines became big enough to force a lean.

If you can, move. Fuck HOA’s.
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To the bolded, not exactly. They're dictating that if your garage doesn't fit this basic scenario of two cars parked in a garage, which they need all the information and registration, then you have no eligibility to use the community parking area if you have more than that. The policy is only written with the assumption that a home has two cars parked in the garage with no consideration for any other possible and likely circumstances.

But yes, I still agree it's an overstep what an HOA should be capable of.

I just went to check the mail and I'm still seeing fewer cars parked inside the community and noticing even more cars parked just outside on the street.

This was a solution to something that wasn't even a problem in the first place.

Eldritch said:
Hey, talking it out at the meeting and with your neighbors might totally help. At least you will be able to get a smell for what flavor of petty tyranny you may be dealing with if not.
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I agree but I just want to see how they operate first to get some understanding of how they conduct their meetings, if any other residents in attendance have any grievances, how that's handled, etc. I don't want to just show up like "rabble rabble, me mad" without any perspective.
 
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Some of these garage guidelines only place restrictions on getting assigned parking spaces, not necessarily how you have to use your garage. If you want to store race bikes in there, fine. But you just don't get an assigned community parking space as a result. To me it's fair when parking is an issue. If someone can store race bikes AND get an assigned spot, then everyone might as well use their garage for something other than their main vehicle and then...not enough community parking spots. Then what?
For the OP the new rules seem overkill though since parking is not an issue.
 
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gnahc79 said:
Some of these garage guidelines only place restrictions on getting assigned parking spaces, not necessarily how you have to use your garage. If you want to store race bikes in there, fine. But you just don't get an assigned community parking space as a result. To me it's fair when parking is an issue. If someone can store race bikes AND get an assigned spot, then everyone might as well use their garage for something other than their main vehicle and then...not enough community parking spots. Then what?
For the OP the new rules seem overkill though since parking is not an issue.
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Telling you that you have to use your garage for parking or you won’t get an assigned space is telling you what you can do with your garage.
 
msethhunter said:
Telling you that you have to use your garage for parking or you won’t get an assigned space is telling you what you can do with your garage.
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Explicit rules on what you can do with your garage (no woodshop, no project cars/bikes) tell you what you can do with your garage. This assigned parking thing without those explicit what you can have in garage restrictions...you just don't get the benefit of an assigned parking spot in the community parking area. Park on the street. You can still have whatever in the garage.

or we can both be right, if the assigned parking spot thing is considered a right :)
 
I tried to upload a picture I took while I checked the mail about 15 minutes ago but BARF isn't cooperating. I would estimate parking right now is about 60% capacity. That goes up at night when people get home from work, sure, but not by much. A lot of people 1) have always worked from home or B) started a few years ago after covid. So the percent usage even during mid day is pretty representative of the whole day. Majority of kids here are not of driving age so there's not a bunch of teens and young adults that make up a big portion of drivers. Just wanted to illustrate that I'm not just being a pain in the ass resident who doesn't want to be told what to do.

I have to wonder how much this is affecting the elementary/middle school that's about ~200 feet away from our neighborhood. It's already a nightmare on the street during drop off/pick up hours and we do have rules that people aren't allowed to park in our community while waiting for their kids because everyone would do it and we'd fill up every afternoon. Now THAT is a policy that makes sense. And they enforce it all the time, not just a posted sign that has no teeth.

Honestly this parking thing is the first time they've been so hamfisted about any rules. For instance, we're not supposed to be in the pool/spa area past 10pm. I've only been asked to leave once after hours in 4 years.
 
quote of the month: ‘it’s not my duty as mayor to make sure you have a parking spot. for me it’s the same as if you bought a cow, or a refrigerator, and then asked me where you’re going to put them.’ - miguel anxo, mayor of pontevedra, spain
 
littlebeast said:
quote of the month: ‘it’s not my duty as mayor to make sure you have a parking spot. for me it’s the same as if you bought a cow, or a refrigerator, and then asked me where you’re going to put them.’ - miguel anxo, mayor of pontevedra, spain
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He is not wrong.
 
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