What's the skinny on being given a 'warning'?

[Enchanter]

Don't know bout y'all but if it's the rider's decision, I don't have much sympathy kind of like the speeding tickets

I've received over the years. Lots of cases of people making poor choices or judgments like that recent bike vs. train incident in San Leandro. If it's true that the rider made the bad decision to participate, I don't have much sympathy and this applies to other aspects of life too not just...

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Can a LEO comment on the second paragraph? Are 'warnings' logged or annotated somewhere for other LEO's to see?

Got a performance award last fall. I deserved it. Tooling along Hwy 12 between Cordelia and Napa. It's near impossible not to push the limits on this section. Came up over a small rise and there was Mr. Motocop aiming his laser thing at me. I immediately pulled over, shut down and kept my hands in view. He asked for my license, reggy and insurance. I had all readily available. I asked him for a veteran's discount and he asked me what I wanted. I asked for a 10% discount and he chuckled and said sure. Wrote me up for 74 in a 65. He clocked me at 80 in a 50 (speed limit on that road). I figured good enough. We chatted about motorcycles for a few minutes and it turned out that we both knew another CHP motocop. Told me to say hello.

Apparently, there is some code that they annotate on your record that the violation is altered. A few months later, I got pulled over on 101 for lane sharing a little too aggressively. It was a local motocop this time who was following me and decided he had seen enough. He mentioned that I was given a break last time. He gave me a warning and told me to take it easy.

I deserved both and take my licks when deserved.

 

[NorCalBusa]

Same agency it would be rather easy, but I don't know if its common- an other agency seeing a warning would be surprising. Following.

 

[dravnx]

On the ticket under description, it's close to unreadable but I can see @80. Thinking back on the encounter, I remember in the conversation that he asked me about the ticket and I might have gotten diarrhea mouth and mentioned the break I was given.

 

[bojangle]

Don't know bout y'all but if it's the rider's decision, I don't have much sympathy kind of like the speeding tickets

I've received over the years. Lots of cases of people making poor choices or judgments like that recent bike vs. train incident in San Leandro. If it's true that the rider made the bad decision to participate, I don't have much sympathy and this applies to other aspects of life too not just...

www.bayarearidersforum.com

Can a LEO comment on the second paragraph? Are 'warnings' logged or annotated somewhere for other LEO's to see?

No.

 

[bojangle]

Same agency it would be rather easy, but I don't know if its common- an other agency seeing a warning would be surprising. Following.

Even same agency, is say very unlikely. For one thing, he was given a break on the speed on a ticket, not some separate written warning that another officer could look up. And this is basic "routine" traffic stuff. I mean, I write so many tickets as a motor cop. It's not like these are discussed in detail, or that any other officer would even remember, absent the most extreme or unusual encounters.

 

[bojangle]

On the ticket under description, it's close to unreadable but I can see @80. Thinking back on the encounter, I remember in the conversation that he asked me about the ticket and I might have gotten diarrhea mouth and mentioned the break I was given.

I think we found our answer. Occam's razor. You mentioned getting a break and the officer repeated it back to you when cutting you loose.

 

[ST Guy]

I got a ticket once and afterwards I noted a small mark on the margin of the ticket with my actual speed, considerably faster than what he wrote me up for. So he did give me a break and did note my actual speed in case I tried to fight it.

 

[bojangle]

I got a ticket once and afterwards I noted a small mark on the margin of the ticket with my actual speed, considerably faster than what he wrote me up for. So he did give me a break and did note my actual speed in case I tried to fight it.

Right, but some other officer isn't going to know or care about that.

I've cited numerous people now than once, and most of the time I don't even realize it until I see their entry in our record management system later.

 

[bojangle]

The instructor who taught my radar and lidar classes said that he used to give breaks in the speeds he cited people for, as the speeds correlate with theft amount of the fine. He did this until one time when a person took him to court and questioned his integrity, calling him a liar for doing so. He said after that, he decided to just write down the speed him radar or lidar indicated. I decided that was a good policy. That's what I do. The speed I get is the speed I write on the ticket. I don't mess around with writing in lower speeds.

 

[ST Guy]

The officer who did this was with the CHP. I was driving my Mini early one morning heading over to my mother’s place in Modesto to help clean out her home after she died. No one else was on the road at that time except for me and him. . I was very polite and respectful with the officer and even asked if he could give me a break. He did, sort of. But he also noted my actual speed somewhat cryptically in the margin. I figured it was done so he’d know my actual speed if I tried to fight it. I counted my blessings and took my class.

 

[Rtmac]

So not once, but twice in my lifetime I've had tickets "go missing." First one was an incomplete stop ticket in Berkeley in the 90's. Second was a red-light ticket in Walnut Creek about 15 years ago (by a LEO, not a R-L camera.) Both times I received no courtesy notice, but I had the ticket w/ the appear by date. I went to the courthouse(s) and they showed no record of the ticket. Not wanting to end up with a warrant, I followed up with the court for several months after each incident... nothing. I'm under the impression that once a ticket is written, the LEO can't just tear it up (and why would they?). So, I've always just assumed it was another example of my incredible luck. But I've always wondered about it. Do tickets really just get lost?