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When does trophy hunting become too much for most?

Climber

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A US trophy hunter pays $110,000 to kill a rare mountain goat in Pakistan
"It was an easy and close shot. I am pleased to take this trophy," the hunter, identified as Bryan Kinsel Harlan, was quoted as saying. His home state or city was not identified, but his Pakistani guides said he is from Texas.
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I believe in gun rights, but some of these hunters who have the animal placed in a way that they weren't put at risk, didn't have to take a difficult shot, didn't have to go on a long stalk just rubs me the wrong way.

It's almost like going to a bar and bragging that you beat your wife regularly to keep her in line.

Are others, who aren't against hunting, disgusted with this kind of 'trophy hunting'?
 
I leans toward cautious ambivalence.

Helps the species through the money raised, but sucks for the one guy getting culled.
But man oh man the practice seems ripe for abuse.
 
Climber said:
I believe in gun rights, but some of these hunters who have the animal placed in a way that they weren't put at risk, didn't have to take a difficult shot, didn't have to go on a long stalk just rubs me the wrong way.
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So much more dangerous than going to the grocery store butcher counter. Those women at Whole Foods can be downright mean.
 
Personally, as a sports photographer, I would have had far, far more respect (not hard to beat absolutely zero) for somebody who goes out into the wild and captures a spectacular picture of an animal in their environment then creates a giant poster of it.

Now THAT is a far more admirable hunter and shooter.
 
The article claims that it's helped conservation, as the money is distributed to the impoverished residents of the area.

If they understand that not poaching the goats means more hunters pay $$$$$, the few killed by the hunters are more than counteracted by the many not killed for food.
 
Climber said:
Personally, as a sports photographer, I would have had far, far more respect (not hard to beat absolutely zero) for somebody who goes out into the wild and captures a spectacular picture of an animal in their environment then creates a giant poster of it.

Now THAT is a far more admirable hunter and shooter.
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I don't disagree. I have always been opposed to hunting larger animals with a gun. I've always bow hunted and carried a side arm for self defense or cruelty management.

In this case, if the money was indeed used for conservation efforts AND they were culling an infertile Top Buck than I would fully support this hunt.
 
Gun owner, not the slightest fan of trophy hunting... I find it detestable.

I shot a bunny with a pellet gun when i was a kid. It screamed for 10 minutes in agaony while i pumped pellet after pellet into it to end its suffering. I was horrified and remember it like it was yesterday.

Since then I've shot a few rats and a couple of pigeons out of necessity without too much remorse, but that bunny was there in the back of my mind every time.

I question the mindset of people who enjoy this kind of thing, but I'm not willing to condem them out of a larger sense of personal freedom. That seems more important to me...up to a point.
 
The taliban can use it as a funding source after drugs, child slavery, antiquities sales, and countless other nefarious operations.
 
SM610 said:
Gun owner, not the slightest fan of trophy hunting... I find it detestable.

I shot a bunny with a pellet gun when i was a kid. It screamed for 10 minutes in agaony while i pumped pellet after pellet into it to end its suffering. I was horrified and remember it like it was yesterday.

Since then I've shot a few rats and a couple of pigeons out of necessity without too much remorse, but that bunny was there in the back of my mind every time.

I question the mindset of people who enjoy this kind of thing, but I'm not willing to condem them out of a larger sense of personal freedom. That seems more important to me...up to a point.
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Same here, except with a blue jay. The difference between us and the guy in a Texas is that our dicks didn't become explosively erect when we killed something for no reason.
 
byke said:
Same here, except with a blue jay. The difference between us and the guy in a Texas is that our dicks didn't become explosively erect when we killed something for no reason.
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Don't discount the contribution of physiology. The "guy in Texas" needs little more than a few microliters of blood to achieve tumescence. (Which is a big part of why he likes trophy hunting.)
 
According to the article, the conservation goals behind this hunt are being met. The species is recovering from the brink of extinction due to the deep pockets of a few individuals. A hunters motive is irrelevant when the bigger picture of conservation is what is important.

Besides, I've never heard of anyone with a camera forking over $110,000 to take a picture of an animal, but a hunter will in order to take that animal home.
 
Ridley said:
According to the article, the conservation goals behind this hunt are being met. The species is recovering from the brink of extinction due to the deep pockets of a few individuals. A hunters motive is irrelevant when the bigger picture of conservation is what is important.

Besides, I've never heard of anyone with a camera forking over $110,000 to take a picture of an animal, but a hunter will in order to take that animal home.
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All a photographer is taking is a picture.

Also, the question isn't about what 'good' the money does, but the actions of this 'trophy collector'. Is he to be admired, disdained or something else? I really doubt that the monetary benefit of this for the species was foremost in his mind.
 
Climber said:
A US trophy hunter pays $110,000 to kill a rare mountain goat in Pakistan

I believe in gun rights, but some of these hunters who have the animal placed in a way that they weren't put at risk, didn't have to take a difficult shot, didn't have to go on a long stalk just rubs me the wrong way.

It's almost like going to a bar and bragging that you beat your wife regularly to keep her in line.

Are others, who aren't against hunting, disgusted with this kind of 'trophy hunting'?
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I like your comparison of hunting and spousal abuse.
 
Johndicezx9 said:
Hunting is not a sport, nothing outruns a bullet.
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Not true. On a level playing field, the game often outsmarts the hunter and avoids the bullet, or arrow. Hunting is very different than this nonsense. I don't consider these set up shoots as 'hunting' at all. They're trophy collection and the people who do it, and think they're actually 'hunting', are pathetic douchebags. If it's legal, I'm fine with it, but to call it hunting or for the guys/girls who shoot these animals to claim they 'hunted' them is laughable.
 
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KooLaid said:
I like your comparison of hunting and spousal abuse.
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Not hunting in general, just this kind of sick joke represented as hunting.

Walking up to an animal and shooting it at a distance that a blind grandmother would be unlikely to miss isn't hunting in my view.
 
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