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Nation-wide climate strike by students

Corb said:
Look at you getting all giddy about my impending suspension. Any way you can have censorship of disident thought you will take it.what a surprise

I had no idea my post were getting erased until byke mentioned it.
I have already agreed to stay away from this thread.
A bunch of you calling me a troll for no reason dosnt help.
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Go away then and keep your word. Also, quit crying about being censored.

You aren't a victim and nobody is buying your shit.
 
UDRider said:
I don't think Corb is a troll. He is just so far down the ideological rabbit hole he can't see the light anymore. Probably byproduct of growing up under Soviet rule.
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Agree his overall message/point is pretty much never trolling.
 
Moving on...

I'm curious what people think would actually need to happen to see the type of societal and economic changes that scientists are telling us is necessary to actually address climate change.

Europe announced their Green Deal today, (https://www.forbes.com/sites/emanue...nveiled-the-european-green-deal/#3d31066a5047)

It really does seem like a pretty serious plan, but net zero by 2050 is still not really aggressive enough.
 
Stop subsidizing oil, coal production and make companies pay full costs of their impact on environment. Make them pay fully for oil spills, dealing with coal Ash, by product of fracking, etc. Stop fucking relaxing environmental rules so that dying industry can continue kill people with black lung and level mountains.

Start investing in to battery and other forms of energy research, and infrastructure in general. Specially public transportation.
 
I probably would have bought a vehicle that gets better MPG as my first car if I knew gas was going to be more expensive.

I can't wait till fuel prices spike and the mass of people buying crappy SUVs realizes their mistake.
 
Corb has been suspended for ongoing posting of political content outside of the Political Forum.
 
Probably eradicating all 3rd world societies is the one thing the US is well adept at handling, leaving only the wealthy societies. That and not littering.

Oh, and cleaning your starbucks table up. Above all, that's one of the largest things that makes me think about the earth's surface temperature.
 
Izzy_C said:
I probably would have bought a vehicle that gets better MPG as my first car if I knew gas was going to be more expensive.

I can't wait till fuel prices spike and the mass of people buying crappy SUVs realizes their mistake.
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I recently switched from a 28 mpg car to a 17 mpg car because I realized that I don't need to drive cars as much as I used to and I like it to be fun when I do. :dunno
 
Even though I'm an environmental professional by... profession (that came out weird), I'm not very confident humans will make enough changes before it's too late.

Hopefully I'll have checked out before that happens.

Doesn't mean I toss my beer cans on the ground but I'm pretty sure the next generations are already on borrowed time, as far as quality of life from environmental factors.
 
UDRider said:
Stop subsidizing oil, coal production and make companies pay full costs of their impact on environment. Make them pay fully for oil spills, dealing with coal Ash, by product of fracking, etc. Stop fucking relaxing environmental rules so that dying industry can continue kill people with black lung and level mountains.

Start investing in to battery and other forms of energy research, and infrastructure in general. Specially public transportation.
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Along those lines, I was reading an old National Geographic from ~1978 and there was a Honda Civic ad that mentioned something around 40mpg. Soooo forty years later and it still gets 40mpg??
 
...40 years later it's twice as heavy. That's why.
 
byke said:
Along those lines, I was reading an old National Geographic from ~1978 and there was a Honda Civic ad that mentioned something around 40mpg. Soooo forty years later and it still gets 40mpg??
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Its pretty impressive if you consider the new one weighs twice as much, has probably 3x the horsepower, is dramatically safer and has all manner of luxury features people can't seem to live without these days (power seats/windows/locks, heated seats, multi zone climate control, 14 airbags, etc etc)
 
No I get how many models grow and then they introduce a new econo model to replace it, but where's our 100mpg gas vehicle?
 
byke said:
No I get how many models grow and then they introduce a new econo model to replace it, but where's our 100mpg gas vehicle?
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PEV's. Chevy Volt, Cadillac ELR, etc.
 
aww that damned butbutbut whataboutism China argument...lol.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/domini...ina-renewable-energy-superpower/#6deb0f4b745a

“No country has put itself in a better position to become the world’s renewable energy superpower than China,” says the report, which was issued by the Global Commission on the Geopolitics of Energy Transformation – a group chaired by a former president of Iceland, Olafur Grimsson.

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Holeshot said:
PEV's. Chevy Volt, Cadillac ELR, etc.
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Those are hybrids. Sorry, was the point not clear about how it doesn't seem like we've made the same 40 years of progress in fuel economy as we have in other auto tech?
 
byke said:
Those are hybrids. Sorry, was the point not clear about how it doesn't seem like we've made the same 40 years of progress in fuel economy as we have in other auto tech?
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But we have, with the PEV's. Add to that, vehicles have gotten twice as heavy and that about kills it. Overall, people drive like shit to get good gas mileage...
 
But....you know what the E stands for in PEV, right? Anyway, looks like the Chevrolet Cruze diesel is where it's at with 48mpg highway.
 
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