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2027 John Dice Memorial new bike thread.

Color me xtrainer 200 and 300 curious for sure.

I ride so much hard technical single track up here, I've been considering a lighter emoto, but none of them seem up for the task of the beating I would apply. The x trainer always seemed to slot in there between big bikes and toys.
 
Cool looking bike. Just get rid of that fricking license plate wheelie bar. :rant
 
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My guess is they didn't want to clutter up the tail section but had to stick the plate somewhere.
And easy take off for track work?
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Yeah... a few misguided manufacturers choose that option and leave making the bike look good with a plate up to the new owner. The first time I hated it.. it was not a license plate. It was a stupid mud flap on my 2012 Ducati.

The review on the Norton was a bit mixed. Not exactly the tool I expected, but the lines of the bike are clean!!!!
 
I remember when the Duke came out and I was not a fan of the looks.
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Then people raved about the bikes, I saw the bikes in action and found myself saying there is nothing ugly about performance.

After seeing a couple more Transformer movies I like how they look now.
 
My guess is they didn't want to clutter up the tail section but had to stick the plate somewhere.
And easy take off for track work?
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These plate / fender combinations also reduce the rooster tail of water when riding in the rain. Yeah, yeah, yeah....no one rides in the rain. I wonder if there is a weird EU based regulation that requires them now or in the future.
 
I remember when the Duke came out and I was not a fan of the looks.
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Then people raved about the bikes, I saw the bikes in action and found myself saying there is nothing ugly about performance.

After seeing a couple more Transformer movies I like how they look now.

No mention of the flat cams/burnt followers that plagued those motors. I wonder if they have fixed that for good.
 
I thought he mentioned it in the vid. :dunno for sure
 
I don't really understand all the griping about the Tech Pack, or KTM's approach. Sure, the bike without the Tech Pack might look more competitive on price, but a very small percentage of riders will skip it, and I think it should just be included with a higher base price. And the riders complaining are just being silly. Pay the money and move on with your ride. Or buy a less expensive bike. You will pay for those features one way or another, but KTM does seem to continue to botch the messaging around the tech pack.

I know several people who are hot on CF Moto, and for the money, they seem to be building good bikes. I don't doubt for a second that the 790 Duke is a kick in the ass to ride. But having ridden an RC390 made in India, personally, I don't want a Chinese or India KTM. I don't think it is necessarily a bad business move, since they are offering a lot of bike for the money with those models, and likely introducing a whole new demographic to KTM. But they aren't what I am looking for.

My 890SMT has the KTM-branded J Juan/Brembo brakes, which have been great. Would I prefer a full Brembo system? Sure, but I can't complain even a little about the brakes on my bike. I would be interested to hear more about how the WP brakes perform.

The 690 Rally/Adventure is seemingly just around the corner, and this has been on my wish list ever since I sold my 690 Duke. Exciting!


I have all the BDR maps, and just read about the new Hells Canyon BDR that will be unveiled in August!

 
I thought he mentioned it in the vid. :dunno for sure

I just watched the whole video again, no mention of cam failure. I like the scantlings of most all of the KTMs, but the fact that the factory has a habit of denying faults on warranty is a full stop for me. I also dislike there styling, but that 790 looks ok.
 
Cam/follower issue has allegedly been fixed although they never stated what caused it or what they changed


Discussions seem to indicate changes to the 890 engine including a filter screen added to an oil passage in the head, different follower part # that had a wider contact area to the cam.
 
Cam/follower issue has allegedly been fixed although they never stated what caused it or what they changed


Discussions seem to indicate changes to the 890 engine including a filter screen added to an oil passage in the head, different follower part # that had a wider contact area to the cam.
Supposedly the metal they used for the cam was too soft. The new cam has a new part #, and apparently it is all worked out.
 
Yeah, that's what some people say. Not sure it is nearly a consensus though. Although it is definitely less prevalent with the 890s than it was with the early 790s

I have a 23 890R

I checked the cam and followers at 2000 miles. Definitely odd wear patterns on the cams, more than you would expect, more than I have seen from bikes decades older with 50x mileage.

I am just watching them closely every winter, but I have no faith that anything is actually fixed or that there is no risk.
I will just watch them closely and hopefully replace them before they do any damage.
 
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