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Why you can't have bureaucrats in agencies that are supposed to protect children.

Climber

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Washington mayor: City failed 4 slain children
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The mayor of Washington and other officials said Friday that city government failed four children whose decomposing bodies were found this week in their mother's home.

Mayor Adrian Fenty called the lapses "egregious," saying at a news conference that social workers prematurely closed their files on a family that struggled on the fringes since arriving in the city in December 2005.

The parents asked for food stamps and were turned down. They asked for housing assistance and were turned down again, officials said.

And, during repeated contacts with city agencies, there were warning signs that the family was in deep trouble, Fenty said.

Those red flags included reports from a nurse in July 2006 that both parents were substance abusers and that the children were living in a van, the mayor said. The case was closed because the family did not have a fixed address -- the opposite of what should have happened, Fenty said.

In March, the children stopped attending school after their father died in a Maryland hospice.

In May, the mayor said, a suspicious school social worker alerted Metropolitan Police that the mother might be holding a truant child "hostage." But the officer reported back that the children appeared to be healthy and were being home-schooled.

Then the family dropped off the social service agency radar.

On Wednesday, the family surfaced again, tragically, when four decomposing bodies were found by U.S. marshals serving an eviction notice.
I've seen this kind of thing with the California CPS, I have experienced their incompetence and have seen them harass decent people.

Unfortunately, like most(all) government agencies the eventually become mostly populated by bureaucrats.
 
Also illustrates the folly of relying on the government to save and support you.
 
Washington mayor: City failed 4 slain children

I've seen this kind of thing with the California CPS, I have experienced their incompetence and have seen them harass decent people.

Unfortunately, like most(all) government agencies the eventually become mostly populated by bureaucrats.

I can't figure you out. You are for raising taxes in one thread and against government bureaucracy in this one.

It is truly sad that our welfare rich society let these kids fall through the cracks.
 
It also illustrates the publics demand for them to do more (when they think children are in trouble), but to stay out of it when it comes to them (harrassing decent people).

There should be a reliable system that insures follow up, has some system of checks and balances (because the system as it stands is open to abuse of power by individuals), and that hold the department employees responsible.

My bet is that this case will get a bunch of press, everyone will point fingers, and nobody will be fired... next week it will be forgotten.
 
I can't figure you out. You are for raising taxes in one thread and against government bureaucracy in this one.

It is truly sad that our welfare rich society let these kids fall through the cracks.
I don't think that you will succeed in figuring me out.

I don't want to see taxes go up, but sometimes it is necesary for taxes to be paid. You can't forever keep cutting taxes and still have the same society.

I don't like government bureaucracy any more than you do, I see how you might connect the two since you hate both but in my mind the two are separate issues.

In addition, a bureaucracy doesn't necessarily have to be populated by what we refer to as bureaucrats.

I apologize in advance if this is beyond the comprehension of some on here.
 
I'm sure you would be the first to cry about government support going to drug users too. Or how the social services system was wasting money by not following the guidelines :twofinger
 
It also illustrates the publics demand for them to do more (when they think children are in trouble), but to stay out of it when it comes to them (harrassing decent people).

There should be a reliable system that insures follow up, has some system of checks and balances (because the system as it stands is open to abuse of power by individuals), and that hold the department employees responsible.

My bet is that this case will get a bunch of press, everyone will point fingers, and nobody will be fired... next week it will be forgotten.
They will probably do an 'internal investigation' and give absolve themselves of all guilt, just like the CPS in Oakland did after that young boy was beaten to death and CPS didn't even visit the house despite many calls by neighbors.

If you get people that actually care about what they were doing (instead of just protecting their little fiefdom's and doing as little actual work as possible) then these types of agencies would accomplish more of what they were actually formed to do, rather than just being a place of employment and an entity that politicians can point towards and say that they have it taken care of.
 
I'm sure you would be the first to cry about government support going to drug users too. Or how the social services system was wasting money by not following the guidelines :twofinger
I'm sure that you don't know a damn thing about me, how I think or what I would do. :rolleyes
 
I'm sure that you don't know a damn thing about me, how I think or what I would do. :rolleyes

Just pointing out that a fair number of your "news headlines" are about govenment "waste"
 
Another feel good classic by Climber.

aren't there any good molesting stories today?
 
In addition, a bureaucracy doesn't necessarily have to be populated by what we refer to as bureaucrats.

I apologize in advance if this is beyond the comprehension of some on here.

Do you think you'll ever have a government that is not full of bureaucrats? :rolleyes
 
remember - politicians run the government, those bureaucrats are told what to do by the politicians we elect.
ulitimately everthing the government does is political.
 
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