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Earplugs - are they ALL illegal?

Lorry

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I didn't want to pollute another thread where earplugs are mentioned.

In 2004 a bill was passed (supported by the AMA) which would permit riders to wear foam earplugs as long as they do not inhibit the wearer's ability to hear a siren. What was this bill for? Several LEOs here say that ALL earplugs are illegal. Inhibit means prevent or stop, so surely section D allows the use of earplugs as long as you can still hear a siren?

"From an AMA press release:
California SB 315 has been signed into law. Included in this bill was a provision to allow for use of "foam" style non-custom earplugs by street motorcycle riders. Thanks are due to State Senator Debra Bowen (Democrat, District 28, Redondo Beach) who worked closely with the American Motorcyclist Association (AMA) to make this change in the law. The AMA is asking riders to let Senator Bowen know they appreciate her assistance by sending her an email. The new law takes effect January 1, 2004.
"Requiring motorcyclists who want to drown out road noise by using ear plugs to buy custom-made plugs is an outdated law that makes absolutely no sense," said Senator Bowen. "The test ought to be whether a rider using ear plugs can still hear a car's horn or a siren from an emergency vehicle. If a set of ear plugs can meet that test, then a rider ought to be able to use them, regardless of who makes them or how they're made. The only people the custom-made requirement helps are, surprise, the people who make custom ear plugs. It doesn't help riders and it doesn't help the police, emergency vehicle operators, or other drivers who count on a motorcyclist to be able to hear their horns or sirens. As long as over-the-counter plugs do the job, there's no reason why ear plugs should have to be custom-made, so junking that requirement is a common sense change that's long overdue."
The bill was signed on 9/28/03, chaptered on 9/29/03, and will take effect on 1/1/04."

V.C.

27400. A person operating a motor vehicle or bicycle may not wear a headset covering, or earplugs in, both ears. This prohibition does not apply to any of the following:

(a) A person operating authorized emergency vehicles, as defined in Section 165.

(b) A person engaged in the operation of either special construction equipment or equipment for use in the maintenance of any highway.

(c) A person engaged in the operation of refuse collection equipment who is wearing a safety headset or safety earplugs.

(d) A person wearing personal hearing protectors in the form of earplugs or molds that are specifically designed to attenuate injurious noise levels. The plugs or molds shall be designed in a manner so as to not inhibit the wearer's ability to hear a siren or horn from an emergency vehicle or a horn from another motor vehicle.

(e) A person using a prosthetic device that aids the hard of hearing.
 
I stop you, and your wearing them. You don't get cited. I was under the impression that the other LEO's on this board were in agreement with that statement.
 
What if you're wearing custom made earplugs w/ speakers built into them to listen to an iPod while you ride?

:laughing
 
The only way I could see someone being cited is if the officer did not get a reaction from the rider for a while due to the earplugs. Then subsection (d) would have been violated because they were unable to hear the siren/horn.
 
What if you're wearing custom made earplugs w/ speakers built into them to listen to an iPod while you ride?

:laughing

That's only legal if you're in Tahoe carrying a full auto Mac10 with a CCW from Utah, but your front tire is in California and your rear tire is in Nevada, and you're in the driveway of an Indian Reservation?
 
The only way I could see someone being cited is if the officer did not get a reaction from the rider for a while due to the earplugs. Then subsection (d) would have been violated because they were unable to hear the siren/horn.

I think that's how John (silversys) does it. I recall him saying he'll give the guy a few chirps of the siren and if he doesn't respond, he's getting a ticket for that too. :laughing
 
The only way I could see someone being cited is if the officer did not get a reaction from the rider for a while due to the earplugs. Then subsection (d) would have been violated because they were unable to hear the siren/horn.

Yup, definitely.
 
Yeah, just remember though that you can always contest a ticket. I have heard from multiple LEO's here that they are illegal. It is not up to the officer to decide the law just to enforce what they believe the law to say (one of what I feel is the worst part of our legal system). That is why we have Judges. Does it suck to have to take a day off of work to prevent your ticket from increasing the revenue of this deficit state. YES, but if I got a ticket for Earplugs I would TBWD it and include:

"From an AMA press release:
California SB 315 has been signed into law. Included in this bill was a provision to allow for use of "foam" style non-custom earplugs by street motorcycle riders. Thanks are due to State Senator Debra Bowen (Democrat, District 28, Redondo Beach) who worked closely with the American Motorcyclist Association (AMA) to make this change in the law. The AMA is asking riders to let Senator Bowen know they appreciate her assistance by sending her an email. The new law takes effect January 1, 2004.
"Requiring motorcyclists who want to drown out road noise by using ear plugs to buy custom-made plugs is an outdated law that makes absolutely no sense," said Senator Bowen. "The test ought to be whether a rider using ear plugs can still hear a car's horn or a siren from an emergency vehicle. If a set of ear plugs can meet that test, then a rider ought to be able to use them, regardless of who makes them or how they're made. The only people the custom-made requirement helps are, surprise, the people who make custom ear plugs. It doesn't help riders and it doesn't help the police, emergency vehicle operators, or other drivers who count on a motorcyclist to be able to hear their horns or sirens. As long as over-the-counter plugs do the job, there's no reason why ear plugs should have to be custom-made, so junking that requirement is a common sense change that's long overdue."
The bill was signed on 9/28/03, chaptered on 9/29/03, and will take effect on 1/1/04."

V.C.

27400. A person operating a motor vehicle or bicycle may not wear a headset covering, or earplugs in, both ears. This prohibition does not apply to any of the following:

(a) A person operating authorized emergency vehicles, as defined in Section 165.

(b) A person engaged in the operation of either special construction equipment or equipment for use in the maintenance of any highway.

(c) A person engaged in the operation of refuse collection equipment who is wearing a safety headset or safety earplugs.

(d) A person wearing personal hearing protectors in the form of earplugs or molds that are specifically designed to attenuate injurious noise levels. The plugs or molds shall be designed in a manner so as to not inhibit the wearer's ability to hear a siren or horn from an emergency vehicle or a horn from another motor vehicle.

(e) A person using a prosthetic device that aids the hard of hearing.
 
That's only legal if you're in Tahoe carrying a full auto Mac10 with a CCW from Utah, but your front tire is in California and your rear tire is in Nevada, and you're in the driveway of an Indian Reservation?

T-1? Is that you??? :laughing
 
I have heard from multiple LEO's here that they are illegal.
Got a quote from any of them handy? I believe in and of themselves, the earplugs are legal until shown otherwise in real conditions.
 
Got a quote from any of them handy? I believe in and of themselves, the earplugs are legal until shown otherwise in real conditions.

Yup...

Rel: "Oh, you cant wear earplugs, by the way. "


He has stated this several times. Sorry to name names, but you asked.
 
Yup...

Rel: "Oh, you cant wear earplugs, by the way. "


He has stated this several times. Sorry to name names, but you asked.

Read the rest of that thread. The OP stated that it took some time for him to notice the attempted vehicle stop. This could be due to the fact that his earplugs didn't allow him to hear the siren/horn of the emergency vehicle behind him, thus making it illegal.

All conjecture, but you can't look at that one sentence alone in a thread that long.

For those not familiar, here is the thread in question: http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=268902

Reference post #48.
 
Got a quote from any of them handy? I believe in and of themselves, the earplugs are legal until shown otherwise in real conditions.

Yup...

Rel: "Oh, you cant wear earplugs, by the way. "
He has stated this several times. Sorry to name names, but you asked.

Read the rest of that thread. The OP stated that it took some time for him to notice the attempted vehicle stop. This could be due to the fact that his earplugs didn't allow him to hear the siren/horn of the emergency vehicle behind him, thus making it illegal.

All conjecture, but you can't look at that one sentence alone in a thread that long.

For those not familiar, here is the thread in question: http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=268902

Reference post #48.
Mulltiple LEO's here? You got one, albeit out-of-context. Who else? And, quote the whole post, ok?
 
Yup...

Rel: "Oh, you cant wear earplugs, by the way. "


He has stated this several times. Sorry to name names, but you asked.


Since I got quoted.....

Yeah, I cite the wearing of earplugs all the time. I have yet, knock on wood, to have that overturned by the court.

Now, like Silversys stated, if the rider doesnt react to the siren, he cant hear horns and is in violation of this section.
 
So remember, if you get pulled over, but don't notice the cop right away, tell him that you didn't feel it was safe to pull over at first.
 
Since I got quoted.....

Yeah, I cite the wearing of earplugs all the time. I have yet, knock on wood, to have that overturned by the court.

Now, like Silversys stated, if the rider doesnt react to the siren, he cant hear horns and is in violation of this section.

So are you saying that you believe earplugs are illegal, or are you saying you believe earplugs are illegal if they can't hear a horn or siren? If it is the former, I have to ask...you think that even knowing that the legislative intent of changing the law was to make them permissible?

And as an aside...I have no idea what kind of earplugs someone would have to have in to not be able to hear a horn or siren...I hear the tires of the vehicle beside me rolling down the road. :laughing

/shrug

People that don't wear earplugs are idiots that don't care they are making themselves deaf and causing themselves more fatigue than necessary...or they just don't ride much.

Deaf people are allowed to drive, right? Prima facea evidence the headphone/earplug law is bogus. ;)
 
People that don't wear earplugs are idiots that don't care they are making themselves deaf and causing themselves more fatigue than necessary...or they just don't ride much.

Deaf people are allowed to drive, right? Prima facea evidence the headphone/earplug law is bogus. ;)

Come to think of it, when's the last time you saw a police officer wearing earplugs on their bike? They don't. Interesting that OSHA would allow that considering the amount of wind noise that's produced around the helmet. :|
 
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