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Cheating?? How do you get DQ in SBK??

Budman's sweeping the pool and found a floater but tossed it back.
 
I'm not saying that it's right but the cliquishness of Racer's Corner only mirrors what the actual paddock is like. I think it would be hard to eliminate that.

^^Ernie rules.
 
afm199 said:
Budman's sweeping the pool and found a floater but tossed it back.
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:laughing

That is why the RC gets more chemicals thrown in Ernie. A higher concentration helps allow a few more floaters as you put it to remain. It gives you something to dodge when you come up for air and makes for a more interesting experience in the pool. :twofinger
 
budman said:
:laughing

That is why the RC gets more chemicals thrown in Ernie. A higher concentration helps allow a few more floaters as you put it to remain. It gives you something to dodge when you come up for air and makes for a more interesting experience in the pool. :twofinger
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Catch and release is a great and healthy idea! And it allows the prey to grow to a nicer size. :teeth
 
seems to me that a few simple rule changes here would make things a lot better

all protests and DQs should be open. If you protest and the bike is found legal your on the hook for the bill if its illegal build then the protested bikes owner is on the hook for the bill and has to file "official" paperwork the bike has been corrected. And we cannot forget some fines for being a tool for cheating. Busted more then so many times your out of the club.....

simple enough eh? solves tons of problems and forum banter.......oh wait what would be the fun in that...

now back you your regular scheduled BARF programming.
 
Thanks Budman!! I agree people may be afraid to post in here or just stay away... (I have had people tell me this) It sucks but it's true.

I am fairly sure I know of some cheaters in AFM and truly it just makes me want to ride harder to beat them and it's far sweeter when you do.

I know my bikes are legal and if someone wants to tear them down I am into it as then can put some fresh parts in... lol
 
MellowYellow said:
If you protest and the bike is found legal your on the hook for the bill if its illegal build then the protested bikes owner is on the hook for the bill and has to file "official" paperwork the bike has been corrected. And we cannot forget some fines for being a tool for cheating. Busted more then so many times your out of the club.....
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4.3.4.

It's already that way.
 
eeeeek said:
4.3.4.

It's already that way.
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No, that fee is paid by the protester and refunded if the protest is valid. The loser ( cheater) is not out of pocket. They should be. I'd go for a minimum $500 fine.
 
If the person being protested knows his motor is illegal for the class and someone protests them. He can admit guilt at the time of protest and save a tear down. I know some guys that won't let anyone touch there motor unless it's the builder.
 
Ptown175 said:
If the person being protested knows his motor is illegal for the class and someone protests them. He can admit guilt at the time of protest and save a tear down. I know some guys that won't let anyone touch there motor unless it's the builder.
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Well, actually he's not admitting guilt, he's just agreeing to have his results removed from the race results. There's no penalty and the same motor can race next time. However the same protest can be made again and second time and you lose points and all points from the last two races. Without a teardown no proof exists. It's a plea bargain.
 
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So far the only thing I've seen that needs to be changed in the AFM is more members need to read the rule book.





(Alan - there's no sarcasm in there.:p)
 
Holeshot said:
This last weekend, my experience is that as a racer, not a President (and yes, I have to separate the two...which makes for odd consideration when posting). I caught grief from board members when I posted my comments that I didn't like how the rainout fee was instituted, but that was a member who was caught by the fee, and not an AFM official. If some of you (very few actually...thankfully) feel the need to try and use my AFM status to quash my thoughts and missives from an AFM racer, I understand your goal; to force some censorship where BARF normally offers raw thoughts (from all of us) on a subject.
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:rofl Oh man, even as an occasional lurker I couldn't help myself from reading a 25 page train wreck and then I run across your little gem! Really, you're appalled at 'censorship' on BARF? Really?? Weren't you the hatchet man for that lovely former club president who was directing you to edit/delete my BARF posts years ago and used 'the good of the AFM' as his excuse? How's it feel to have that come back and bite you in the ass? Ironically, I actually agree with you about speaking your mind and being straight with AFM members rather than acting like some hidden pos 'politician'.

budman said:
I have also noted that there an many folks that find the RC not so welcoming at times. We see this in some threads where folks may want to know about racing and considering it. In fact I have been asked by a few personally about racing and when I say you should ask your questions here they don't want to because of the heavy click feeling.

Meaning if unless you are a racer, former racer, sponsor of sort or a well known participant in some regard at the track your not very welcomed. That is not saying this is done by all or even a lot, but it is something I think needs to be thought of. These folks should be welcomed.
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:rofl Let me paint a picture for you, budman. A relatively fragile human being decides to climb aboard a mostly steel and aluminum missile that will propel him/her at speeds sometimes exceeding 160 or even 170 mph with no protection other than a suit and boots made out of a cow's hide and a shell with some styrofoam to protect the head. This same fragile human being will often keep the throttle pinned at over 140 mph through T7 or even T8 at Thunderhill, weaving and sliding, desperately trying to find a little more traction to catch and pass some other rider in front of them. These are all type A personalities who risk life and limb for the simple and overriding desire to beat that other rider, whether it's for the win or 5th place or even 25th place! And you're worried about some timid fuxxing Nancy-boys who might find the BARF RC "not-so-welcoming"??! If they can't stand the heat and bantering on a forum, these poor, delicate wallflowers sure as hell aren't going to be racing motorcycles, so maybe their presence isn't necessary in the RC...

Jello Biafra said:
I'm not saying that it's right but the cliquishness of Racer's Corner only mirrors what the actual paddock is like.
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Imagine that, every once in a while we actually agree on something... although it's a very unfortunate situation because it tears the AFM apart. At the core of the problem are the lack of communication and double standards applied by those 'with power' in the club. I retired and moved on to other things but those of you who are still racing should really reconsider the current trajectory of the club because I don't think it ends up in a good place.

Lastly... I find it laughable that anyone (other than poor Yakoo) thinks that sponsors or anyone else gives two shits about what's said on BARF's RC. Seriously, it's a bunch of racer egomaniacs (just like WERA forum) talking trash, which is probably half the fun of racing! Will Dorn or KC or even Jose lose business or sponsors over this thread? Hell no, that's ridiculous. The RC is pure entertainment (mixed in with more and more shills... unfortunately) and it's just the same 20-30 characters in a roadracing version of that old show Cheers, giving each other shit and having some fun. Nothing more, nothing less. Keep going, I'll check back with y'all once in a while... :twofinger
 
Ahh Bibman, tell us how you really feel. Stop holding back and sugar coating. It's not like you.
 
afmotorsports said:
............................blabity blab someone dun me wrong and they suck blabity blab racers are gods gift blabity blab everyone should be more like me blabity blab my agenda is important blabity blab...................................................
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That's how that read to me :dunno

edit: Sorry for the sarcasm, I enjoy reading rc and meeting you folks at trackdays, I'm REALLY glad you don't act so cranky THERE !
 
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