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FINALLY - Lane Sharing is supported in CA

silversvs said:
Hi Bud :wave
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Hey John... :wave
I just have to say thanks for being such a moto safety advocate and being something special to have you be a solid part of our community. You rock sir. :thumbup
 
silversvs said:
Um, no its not.

And thus, my enthusiasm for this big step we just made.

Now we need to do the public education to eliminate thought processes that lead to these types of statements.
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Public education? Lol no. Until you can give me proof, law, CA law that is legal then I will agree with you with you. CHP saying its ok is not law, still just an acceptance.

What is the source of this ruling that lane splitting Is legal- LAW

If you can't, then lane sharing is still deemed illegal.

I feel you though , I'm all for lanes haring/splitting.
 
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Cire 5th said:
Until you can give me proof, law, CA law that is legal then. Will agree with ya'll. CHP saying its ok is not law, still just an acceptance.

What is the source of this ruling that lane splitting Is legal- LAW

If you can't, then lane sharing is still deemed illegal.
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Seriously? :facepalm
 
Read the announcement.

Fully justified. We are now on the radar... And California will be.moving forward to make it known.

If you need a law written... Write your congressman to do so. I am satisfied myself.
 
Cire 5th said:
Public education? Lol no. Until you can give me proof, law, CA law that is legal then I will agree with you with you. CHP saying its ok is not law, still just an acceptance.

What is the source of this ruling that lane splitting Is legal- LAW

If you can't, then lane sharing is still deemed illegal.

I feel you though , I'm all for lanes haring/splitting.
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Feel free to start a new thread. But there is no law that makes lane sharing illegal in CA.
 
Cire 5th said:
Public education? Lol no. Until you can give me proof, law, CA law that is legal then I will agree with you with you. CHP saying its ok is not law, still just an acceptance.

What is the source of this ruling that lane splitting Is legal- LAW

If you can't, then lane sharing is still deemed illegal.

I. With you though, I'm all for lanes haring/splitting.
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You're the one saying it's illegal. You should be the one citing the cvc to prove your point.
 
Cire 5th said:
Public education? Lol no. Until you can give me proof, law, CA law that is legal then I will agree with you with you. CHP saying its ok is not law, still just an acceptance.

What is the source of this ruling that lane splitting Is legal- LAW

If you can't, then lane sharing is still deemed illegal.

I feel you though , I'm all for lanes haring/splitting.
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i have an idea, how about you post the CVC that states lane sharing is illegal.
 
Then why was this thread even started if you weren't expecting a legal/illegal vs an accepted way of doing things?

We already know that lane sharing is accepted in CA.
Lets celebrate when we finally make it law that it is ok to lane split without no consequence except for the riders life.
 
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budman said:
..and stoked that because of barf and our influence I got to be a part of it. I still get a chuckle hearing barf in our meetings. Who would have thought our State would respect something called barf. I believe they do.
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Indeed. It was awesome to see in person how y'all managed to get law enforcement and, more importantly, members of a host of state organizations to seriously listen to and then eventually incorporate the suggestions (and grievances :teeth) of folks whose only role was to represent motorcyclists. It made me wanna BARF. :twofinger

You and silversvs and others did yeoman's work here. Congrats. And thanks. :thumbup
 
wally said:
i have an idea, how about you post the CVC that states lane sharing is illegal.
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And can you post saying that its legal?

Because its neither.....it's accepted.

Can we all can agree that the cops can bust you if they want to? In turn wouldn't that make lane sharing illegal. Right?

I just proved it right there.

Lane sharing/splitting is illegal but accepted.


Much like pot but that a different subject.
 
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Guys, just let this one go. o_O

Clearly there is a strange and spooky hollow between two special ears in this thread.
 
Cire 5th said:
Then why was this thread even started if you weren't expecting a legal/illegal vs an accepted way of doing things?

We already know that lane sharing is accepted in CA.
Lets celebrate when we finally make it law that it is ok to lane split without no consequence.
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Because of the announcement... The official State statement of such and guidelines being issued on such.

This is a win... If you cannot see that I really cannot figure out how you cannot agree this is a GREAT step.

Of course I am am positive kind of guy . :teeth
 
But riders lane split already so what is the progress here? If anything it's telling some inexperienced riders that's it ok.

I respect your guys opinion and understand your POV.. But really did we have to know about this?

I see riders lane share/split everyday..

The cops can bust them if they wanted to. Only a law saying CHP can't, is when ill be celebrating.

My last comment about this.
 
i wish i could have pulled this up on my phone when i was pulled over 3 days ago for lane splitting at a red light to get to the front..
 
Last comment... Thanks.

PM me ... I will give you my phone number and will explain.

Whatever it takes... On so many levels.

Cheers
 
silversvs said:
Its been a long time coming. Its taken a lot of arm twisting, arguing, and frustration. But we have taken a huge leap forward.

Lane Sharing is being supported by two of the big three in California. We have CHP on board and below is a link to their website and the info being distributed. The California Office of Traffic Safety is also supporting the information and should have the info posted on their website soon. The Department of Motor Vehicles has the information at their executive level and reviewing if they will be supporting. If they do we will get the info posted up on their website and begin integrating the info into the car and motorcycle handbooks. CALTRANS has also approved.


http://www.chp.ca.gov/programs/lanesplitting.html short version
http://www.chp.ca.gov/programs/lanesplitguide.html expanded version


What does this mean? We finally have the support of the premier traffic safety organizations in the state to promote lane sharing in California. We finally have an accepted set of "guidelines" to be used to lane share in a safe and acceptable manner.

What's next? Public education!! We will be reaching out to motorcyclists, motorists, and law enforcement. The effort will be to get all three groups on the same page. Motorcyclists need to understand that if they follow the guidelines they can help us promote safe and prudent lane sharing. Motorists will be educated on the fact that lane sharing is legal and supported by the CHP, OTS, and hopefully DMV. Law Enforcement needs to get on board and be tolerant of lane sharing motorcyclists who are sharing within the guidelines.

This is the first giant step in a long and ongoing process. We have been working on this for over two years (yes government works slow) and the obstacles we have had to overcome have been pretty steep.

In the near future you will see public safety alterts (PSAs), public outreach, press releases, videos, and more in an effort to get this data out to all three target groups.

For anyone who says its not enough, or wants to argue with what the guidelines are, take it elsewhere. Its been a long hard fight, and its time to revel in a substantial victory.

Budman has been an active participant in this process, BARF has played a role in data gathering, a few members were involved in some focus groups, and a couple of folks at CHP at the state level have been great advocates.



The Message:
Motorcyclists who are competent enough riders to lane split, should follow these general guidelines if choosing to lane split:

1)Travel at a speed that is no more than 10 MPH faster than other traffic – danger increases at higher speed differentials.

2)It is not advisable to lane split when traffic flow is at 30 mph or faster – danger increases as overall speed increases.

3)Typically, it is more desirable to split between the #1 and #2 lanes than between other lanes.

4)Consider the total environment in which you are splitting, including the width of the lanes, size of surrounding vehicles, as well as roadway, weather, and lighting conditions.

5)Be alert and anticipate possible movements by other road users.
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most awesome, Sirs !!

many thanks to Silversys & Budman & all those barters
 
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