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Insurance 101: What You Need To Know

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There have been a lot of insurance threads lately. This is a compilation of information dealing specifically with motorcycle insurance for California vehicles. Hope this helps to shed some understanding on a very complex subject.

WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW


CA Requirements

This is what is required by the state of California, but keep in mind that you are liable for any damage to person or property that exceeds your coverage.
$15,000 for injury/death to one person
$30,000 for injury/death to more than one person
$5,000 for damage to property
something to note:
Off-highway vehicles
Special equipment vehicles
Trailers
Vehicles registered under a planned non-operation (PNO) status
are not required to prove financial responsibility.

DEFINITIONS
These are confusing to a lot of people and I often see gross misinformation posted regarding the different kinds of coverage available.
These are some of the most common types of coverage you can purchase for a motorcycle.

Liability Bodily Injury and Property
Uninsured/Under insured
Collision
Comprehensive
Medical Payments
Custom Parts and Equipment


Liability
Liability covers you in financial terms if you are found to be to blame for personal injuries or damages to a 3rd party. Liability policies are sold in "limit" increments. Limits are the maximum amount that your insurance company will pay out as a result of an at fault accident.
California requirements are $15,000/$30,000/$5,000.
It can be surprising how little a significant increase in limits may cost per year.

Note: Insurance does not absolve you from your financial responsibility it simply pays out the amount that you pay for when you buy your policy nor does Liability coverage offer protection to the rider or the the motorcycle being ridden. Think of Liability Coverage as minimizing your own personal legal risk.

Uninsured/Under Insured Motorist
Bodily Injury:
These coverages will protect you if you are in an accident and the other party involved has no or too little insurance to cover medical bills and expenses.
Property Damage:
Uninsured or Under insured property damage is usually a separate line and a separate charge from UI. In California the maximum payout is $3500

Note: CA State law prevents you from insuring yourself for more than you would pay out for injuring someone else. Therefore, your UMBI limits can only be as high as your Bodily Injury Liability Limits. Uninsured coverage does not pay for bodily injury or damages that you caused by yourself, however.

Collision
Collision coverage pays for damage to your motorcycle when you collide with another vehicle or object regardless of fault. In the event that damages to your bike exceed it's value collision coverage pays for the replacement based on values determined by a third party. Collision coverage is subject to a deductible (a pre-agreed upon dollar amount that you pay in the event of an accident.)

Note: You are always responsible for the deductible, even if the accident is not your fault. The deductible can be waived in the event the at fault party has insurance and their insurance company accepts liability. In the event the the at fault party is uninsured or under insured it may take years for you to recover your deductible. I always suggest that a person prices out different deductible, it can be quite a surprise at how little a smaller deductable might cost.

Comprehensive
Comprehensive coverage pays for damage to your motorcycle caused by an event other than a collision, such as fire, theft or vandalism. If you hit an animal, or if your bike is flooded or stolen, Comprehensive coverage will apply.

Note: As with Collision coverage a deductible does apply.

Medical Payments
Medical payments coverage can help cover the medical or funeral expenses of covered riders and passengers after an accident, regardless of fault.

Some carriers offer only a very minimum of coverage on motorcycle policies

Custom Parts and Equipment/ Accessory Coverage (CPE)
CPE covers permanently attached equipment, devices, accessories, enhancements and changes, other than those that the manufacturer originally installs, that alter the appearance or performance of the motorcycle. Some carriers actually include your gear in with the CPE.

Note: CPE coverage varies greatly between carriers. If you have a lot of modifications this may be something that you don't have on your policy but need to add.

Insurance is a big deal and represents big money. It is really important to know what you are purchasing and buy smart. Cheapest isn't always best.

Things to consider when purchasing insurance.
These are some random questions and certainly don't cover EVERYTHING, but if they get you thinking then that's great.

1. Know exactly what you need from your insurance before something happens.
2. Are you covered? With your current policy, if you borrow your friend's bike
and have an accident does your policy wrap to your friend's bike? Mine doesn't so I'm not going to ride my friend's bike.
3. If you loan your bike to a friend, is your bike covered? Mine is, so occasionally I'll loan it to somebody.
4. If you rent a bike does your policy wrap around the rental? Mine doesn't so when I rent I buy the extra coverage.


Hope this helps.

Be Advised:
This is in no way a legal document, it is for educational purposes only.
 
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Thanks for taking the time to write this up. Great to see this info all in one place in Laymans (sp?) terms.
 
How To Decide What you Need

Now that very basic explanations have been posted how do you decide what you need and how much with respect to insurance coverages.

Liability.
There was a time when liability coverage was based on your assets but today medical costs and property values have skyrocketed. Regardless of how broke you are and how asset challenged you may be, a judgement can follow you around waiting to attach your wages, property, or both.

You may be 20 years old and believe that this thing can't touch you but wait, it can. Say you graduate from collage, get a good job and file a tax return. Next thing you know there is now a garnishment against you for that accident you caused a few years back. Worse, imagine your parents die and you inherit....
You understand?

Uninsured Motorist Bodily Injury
This is IMO one of the most under rated misunderstood lines of coverage out there. As a motorcyclist there isn't any such thing as a fender bender. Instead, we on two wheels experience soft tissue damage, broken bones, paralysis, brain damage, or worst case scenario, death.
Having maximum liability limits allows you to purchase maximum UMBI limits.

Why is this important? Say you ride with a marginal health care plan or no medical insurance, or you have a job that requires a sound body to make a living. Hospital visits are very expensive and if you pay a deductible as well as a % it adds up quick.

Collision
Why have collision coverage? This is really important if your bike has any value or is financed. The biggest decision that comes with collision is what deductible to choose. It can be rather surprising the negligible price difference between a $100, $250, $500, or $1000 deductible.

Comprehensive
Regardless of the value of your bike, if it is parked out doors, or in a carport in the City or South Bay you should have comprehensive. All you need to do is look at the number of motorcycle thefts lately to understand why this is a crucial line of coverage to own.
 
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Thanks!

I currently have minimum coverage on my bike. I pay $30/month.

Planning to go this week and increase it.

What are some recommended amounts to increase to? Generally, how big is the price difference?
 
price difference is usually minimal...sometimes none...insurance is something you buy hoping you never have to use...typical rule of thumb is, at a minimum, enough coverage to protect your assets...
 
What about 'gap insurance'? What does that fall under, or is it it's own thing?

Nice write up, thump!
 
Fantastic!!! This should be a sticky!!
Indeed. If the mod indians would have a pow-wow with the chief and find a good place for this kind of sticky, that would be swell. :thumbup

Some DMV information might be good as stickies, too. Although, it seems there are usually at least three different ways people get things done at DMV Kaliformula.
 
Bureaucracy Forum, I should have posted that in Budman's 2014 thread
 
Good ish G! Thanks for the clarification, insurance (moto, car & otherwise) has always been a bit of a gray area for me.
 
Do we have resident Barf brokers/agents to give business to?

I know that we have a few State Farm and Independent Brokers that are BARf Sponsors. I'll try to dig out their names and weblinks

What about 'gap insurance'? What does that fall under, or is it it's own thing?

Nice write up, thump!

GAP insurance is kind of its own thing.What does gap insurance do? It pays the difference, in the event of a total loss, between what you owe on the car and what it is worth in an insurance company's eyes. That's it.

Why would you have gap coverage? You would purchase gap if you are financing a new bike. That 2014 Ducati is worth thousands less after youv'e ridden for a few months and even though the guy that hit you has insurance, his carrier is going to pay the market value of the bike NOT necessarily the loan balance. YOU are still responsible for paying off the difference.
 
Gwynne, this is fantastic! Thanks! :thumbup
 
GAP insurance is kind of its own thing.What does gap insurance do? It pays the difference, in the event of a total loss, between what you owe on the car and what it is worth in an insurance company's eyes. That's it.

Why would you have gap coverage? You would purchase gap if you are financing a new bike. That 2014 Ducati is worth thousands less after youv'e ridden for a few months and even though the guy that hit you has insurance, his carrier is going to pay the market value of the bike NOT necessarily the loan balance. YOU are still responsible for paying off the difference.

That sounds like a really good thing to have if you have a new bike then. I know they depreciate much faster than a 60 month loan for the first year or so. I guess one would just have to be mindful to turn the gap insurance off in the last 9 months or so of paying off the bike.

Thanks for all the fantastic info, G!
 
:thumbup Thanks, Gwynne!

I'd like to recommend calling several companies for quotes.

When I shopped around, the SAME bike, rider, zip code and same coverage quotes varied between $400 and $1100!!! :shocker

(Try State Farm, Farmers, Geico, Progressive, GMAC, AAA, etc, etc.)

:teeth
Yana:banana
 
:thumbup Thanks, Gwynne!

I'd like to recommend calling several companies for quotes.

When I shopped around, the SAME bike, rider, zip code and same coverage quotes varied between $400 and $1100!!! :shocker

(Try State Farm, Farmers, Geico, Progressive, GMAC, AAA, etc, etc.)

:teeth
Yana:banana

And ASK those questions!!!
The way different companies rate the same bike has a lot to do with rates. Geico rates my little 599 as a standard, Allstate rates it as a sport bike. :The difference in quotes was over $1000/ year :dunno
 
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