What will it take to convince you of climate change?

[afm199]

The problem for most climate change legislation, is the monetization of the solution.

Carbon credits are simply a way for the wealthy to skim money and control economic activity.

There are plenty of ways, through legislation, to solve (as best we can) climate change.

First step: Don't vote for anyone over 40.

Second step: Don't vote for anyone who is in the top 10% in terms of wealth.

Third step: Don't vote for anyone with a D or an R after their name.

You do understand that the top 5% have 70% of the wealth, and the next 5% ( still in that 10%) have 12% of the wealth? That group (bottom of the richest 10%) includes a significant number with the staggering wealth of a $300,000 to $500,000. .

Take it further, and look at union members and government employees with pensions. They may have very little wealth, but they do have the equivalent of a very large annuity that will provide them income for life. For many that's well north of $500k to $1,000k in annuity equivalent.

Not quite as simple as it seems.

 

[budman]

Ernie might remember this guy.

Commando Cody was a superhero series in which the title character had to try to uncover the cause of climate change before it was too late. The character appeared in “Commando Cody: Sky Marshal of the Universe” 1955 and “Radar Men From the Moon” 1952.

I wonder who thought of that...?

Pretty forward thinking!

 

[Reli]

You do understand that the top 5% have 70% of the wealth, and the next 5% ( still in that 10%) have 12% of the wealth? That group (bottom of the richest 10%) includes a significant number with the staggering wealth of a $300,000 to $500,000. .

Take it further, and look at union members and government employees with pensions. They may have very little wealth, but they do have the equivalent of a very large annuity that will provide them income for life. For many that's well north of $500k to $1,000k in annuity equivalent.

Not quite as simple as it seems.

Not to mention that probably 40-50% of BARF members fall into the "Top 10%"

 

[CoorsLight]

look on the dark side, by the time it becomes apparent it will be too late.

Yep. But fuck future generations, amirite?

https://theintercept.com/2017/08/28...now-is-the-time-to-talk-about-climate-change/

 

[m_asim]

Enjoy this coming weekend folks.

We have had temperature records fall multiple days last week. I went outside and yelled "Fake News!" but it didn't cool down. Oh Gawd! Why have you forsaken us?

 

[fast4d]

I live 5 miles from the ocean.

when my house becomes beach front property I'll believe it.

 

[Hooli]

Aaaaaaand there's another storm brewing in the Atlantic...

 

[Archimedes]

We have had temperature records fall multiple days last week. I went outside and yelled "Fake News!" but it didn't cool down. Oh Gawd! Why have you forsaken us?

Wait, you mean we had the hottest days ever? Oh wait, you mean since we kept records...so, the last 150-200 years? Well that's a really long time in terms of the age of the planet..., oh wait, it really fucking isn't...

I'm no denier, but this temperature record bullshit is just bullshit. Thirty years ago alarmists were saying that the earth was cooling and Time had a cover warning of the coming Ice Age. But it makes good media sound bites I guess, and the public seems to lap it up.

 

[Archimedes]

Aaaaaaand there's another storm brewing in the Atlantic...

Wait, you mean a hurricane is brewing during hurricane season?!!

 

[Cycle61]

I'm no denier, but this temperature record bullshit is just bullshit. Thirty years ago alarmists were saying that the earth was cooling and Time had a cover warning of the coming Ice Age. But it makes good media sound bites I guess, and the public seems to lap it up.

https://www.skepticalscience.com/What-1970s-science-said-about-global-cooling.html

 

[mrmarklin]

Wait, you mean we had the hottest days ever? Oh wait, you mean since we kept records...so, the last 150-200 years? Well that's a really long time in terms of the age of the planet..., oh wait, it really fucking isn't...

I'm no denier, but this temperature record bullshit is just bullshit. Thirty years ago alarmists were saying that the earth was cooling and Time had a cover warning of the coming Ice Age. But it makes good media sound bites I guess, and the public seems to lap it up.

So much this^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Did you know that there are fossilized seashells in the Rocky Mountains??

Yes---it's coming.

 

[mrmarklin]

Wait, you mean a hurricane is brewing during hurricane season?!!

What a surprise!

 

[nbean16]

Aaaaaaand there's another storm brewing in the Atlantic...

What does that indicate?

 

[nbean16]

How about now?

 

[Brokenlink]

So much this^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Did you know that there are fossilized seashells in the Rocky Mountains??

Yes---it's coming.

Can't tell if serious. You do understand the basic geologic processes of uplift and whatnot don't you?

 

[Brokenlink]

Wait, you mean a hurricane is brewing during hurricane season?!!

I know right? I mean so what if it's worse than we used to see? So what that temps are more extreme now than ever before?

I used to try and discuss this issue with people. But I realized that some people will never be convinced. Yet these are the same people that will never buy property in a flood zone, near an ocean, or in any other area that will likely be affected by sea level rise and climate change.

 

[nbean16]

I know right? I mean so what if it's worse than we used to see? So what that temps are more extreme now than ever before?

I used to try and discuss this issue with people. But I realized that some people will never be convinced. Yet these are the same people that will never buy property in a flood zone, near an ocean, or in any other area that will likely be affected by sea level rise and climate change.

So the believers in climate change are the ones buying ocean front property. Uh...why?

 

[Brokenlink]

So the believers in climate change are the ones buying ocean front property. Uh...why?

Did I say that? No, I am saying that I'd be willing ot bet you aren't going to go buy some lands that are anticipated to flood in the next twenty five years anymore than I am. I wonder why.

 

[TylerW]

So the believers in climate change are the ones buying ocean front property. Uh...why?

What a spectacular failure in logic.

 

[nbean16]

Did I say that? No, I am saying that I'd be willing ot bet you aren't going to go buy some lands that are anticipated to flood in the next twenty five years anymore than I am. I wonder why.

So who is buying there?