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2013 BMW F800GT Reviewed

monkeyneck said:
I don't know current sales numbers on the S1000R, but they're pretty popular, right? Maybe they stock lots of them because they're a good seller and they move fast?
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Exactly.

They're not having any problems moving S1000RR's or the new GS1200. In fact, I know one local dealer that has deposits on the next 17 GS's.

They do have lot's of S1000RR's on the floor, and every time I go in there, it's a different collection of S1000RR's and that was from one week to another.

Triple
 
Triple Threat said:
Exactly.

They're not having any problems moving S1000RR's or the new GS1200. In fact, I know one local dealer that has deposits on the next 17 GS's.

They do have lot's of S1000RR's on the floor, and every time I go in there, it's a different collection of S1000RR's and that was from one week to another.

Triple
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Both bikes are becoming more status symbols than anything. The best Adventure bike, the best Supersport. Too bad their owners are more often than not neither adventurers, nor sport riders.
 
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Underdog said:
Both bikes are becoming more status symbols than anything....Too bad their owners are more often than not neither adventurers, nor sport riders.
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Who am I to judge? That's as bad as me caring about how my friends jeans fit, I don't care.

Triple
 
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Underdog said:
Both bikes are becoming more status symbols than anything. The best Adventure bike, the best Supersport. Too bad their owners are more often than not neither adventurers, nor sport riders.
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Who cares? Isn't that true of every bike model, in aggregate, across their owner base?

Hell, my WeeStrom is sitting with a broken peg, shifter, and bashed to hell skidplate, on TKC-80s. In addition to that, a couple years ago it took me to Alaska. I've put it through more than the average owner, for sure.

But 99.9% of its miles have been on the road -- a pavement warrior with the typical skidplate/handguards/crash bar farkles. I'm not gonna remove all that shit every time I go for a ride on the street. If I had endless funds I'd have an F800GS or 1190 Adventure, and again, 99.9% of the time you could call me a "poseur" who is not fast, and the other 0.1% of the time you could call me a "shitty dirt rider."

Fine by me.

If the expensive brands buy you the poseur label, does buying a cheap japanese poseur bike gain me street cred? :ride
 
reidconti said:
Who cares? Isn't that true of every bike model, in aggregate, across their owner base?

Hell, my WeeStrom is sitting with a broken peg, shifter, and bashed to hell skidplate, on TKC-80s. In addition to that, a couple years ago it took me to Alaska. I've put it through more than the average owner, for sure.

But 99.9% of its miles have been on the road -- a pavement warrior with the typical skidplate/handguards/crash bar farkles. I'm not gonna remove all that shit every time I go for a ride on the street. If I had endless funds I'd have an F800GS or 1190 Adventure, and again, 99.9% of the time you could call me a "poseur" who is not fast, and the other 0.1% of the time you could call me a "shitty dirt rider."

Fine by me.

If the expensive brands buy you the poseur label, does buying a cheap japanese poseur bike gain me street cred? :ride
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Of course not. It's your skill that gets you cred, the brand-- be it street or road, Japanese, Euro or American has nothing to do with it.
 
Underdog said:
Both bikes are becoming more status symbols than anything. The best Adventure bike, the best Supersport. Too bad their owners are more often than not neither adventurers, nor sport riders.
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Funny, the guys I've met at the track on the S1000RR's have, more often than not, been very quick on them. And not just on the straights. Stereotypes like this are retarded.
 
I think his point was that the vast majority of S1000's don't see the track in the first place. It's pretty reasonable to not be surprised when someone that brings an S1000 to the track actually can ride the motorcycle well. :dunno
 
GAJ said:
The R1200S Sport Rider tested in '06 had these roll on seconds: 60-80= 4.1, 80-100= 5 secs.

The F800S they tested in '08 had these numbers: 60-80=4.09, 60-80=4.24.

The F800GT is likely a bit slower in those number due to bigger windscreen but, still, very comparable.

1/4 mile times were 11.4 for the R1200S and 11.3 for the F800S.

So it would seem the $12,000 F800 is quite the bargain compared to the nearly $18,000 RT's of the mid 2000's.

But, no question, the RT would be a better choice for two up riding.

http://www.sportrider.com/performance_numbers/146_motorcycle_performance_numbers/bmw.html
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Thanks for posting this. As someone who spends a fair amount of time commuting on the freeway, 60-80 roll-ons are important to me. I'm going to be in the market for another bike soon. I like the look of the F800's but dismissed them (without test riding) because of the lower HP. The F800's have better 60-80 times than I would have expected.
 
klx-rider said:
Thanks for posting this. As someone who spends a fair amount of time commuting on the freeway, 60-80 roll-ons are important to me. I'm going to be in the market for another bike soon. I like the look of the F800's but dismissed them (without test riding) because of the lower HP. The F800's have better 60-80 times than I would have expected.
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I ride a F800S (supposedly the faster F800).

I was looking for a bike I could tear up the twisties on (I live in the mountains), daily commute on, yet still be able to tour on once in a while (2 up). The only bikes which I found were "versatile" enough were the F800S/ST, Honda VFR800, and Triumph ST.

I chose the F800 because it is the lightest of the bunch and has absolutely mindblowing fuel economy and range.

Out of the negatives:
- The fuel map is leanish in first gear, I've actually had my bike stall after riding close to idle for a long time. No biggie, just twist the throttle more at lower speeds. Apparently I can update my ECU for this as well but this involves a trip to the dealer.
- My clutch switch broke at 11K miles so now I can't start my bike in gear
- My Brembo floating rotors got stuck sideways, making the brakes feel warped, also at 11K miles. I got them unstuck but BMW replaced the floating rotors with fixed in '09 for this reason.
- The pre 2009 models had a lot of issues (I own an '07) that needed to be taken care of. The back wheel would separate from the bike randomly (a recall just issued for that only a month ago), and the motor would become unbearably loud because of piston slap.
- Lack of adjustability in front suspension and although it is progressive it is still too soft. Can be fixed with springs/oil or a gaiter/emulator.
- The controls (blinkers, horn) are absolutely horrible. Whoever designed them deserves to be executed so that he doesn't get offspring. I believe this has been fixed in the GT.

Other than that, it's pretty much perfect. F800s are also very hard to come by used because there is really not much out there that can replace it besides another F800, they also hold their resale value very well, and have pretty decent aftermarket.

Commuter, touring, track - this bike does everything well.

PS: Triple, thanks for the great review.
 
Kornholio said:
I think his point was that the vast majority of S1000's don't see the track in the first place. It's pretty reasonable to not be surprised when someone that brings an S1000 to the track actually can ride the motorcycle well. :dunno
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I saw as many S1000's at my track days last summer than probably any other single model, save maybe one or two 600cc supersports. Given the low numbers sold, I'd say that probably translates into a higher rate of track use than the typical sportbike. We had 4 S1000s and 4 RSV4s out of 75 riders at one day I did last year. But we all know facts should never get in the way of a good stereotype.
 
Ant said:
You're just jealous n shit because we can afford the finer things in life like grey poupon and drink bottled water flown in from Switzerland. Ride a suzuki indeed :x
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Give the guy a break, he lives in Campbell. :laughing

luckett said:
I have Cristal in my radiators and I use foie gras for anti-seize. Where do you guys import your Kool-Aid from?
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Oaklamd. Grip n' sip that purple drank, bish. :twofinger
 
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