600 to 1000...hmmmm

[Med23]

So I am toying with the idea of upgrading the bike by next year. I have progressed from a novice street rider to an average A group rider (on non AFM week trackdays ) on my mighty little R6. Although I still haven't reached the full capacity of the bikes capablilities, I am thinking of getting a new one.

I still haven't decided whether to stick with a 600 or move up to a liter bike. Let's just say I have decided to move up to a liter bike for the sake of this thread.

My riding style is obviously 600 influenced. I have gotten used to trailing deep in to turns and trying to carry a lot of turn entry speed so as to get good drive out (since it has zero down low power ). I love the flickyness of the R6 and the ability to pick any line available.

I know that the liter bikes have progressed so much, but still aren't typically ridden the same way and on the same lines as a 600...so...which liter bike do you think (if any) would be the best transition? I heard the RSV Factory has amazingly nimble handling...? Your thoughts on this one and all the other big boy bikes would be appreciated.

 

[Outta Control]

If you do decide on a 1K I got one for sale.

 

[Med23]

If you do decide on a 1K I got one for sale.

...like I said, it won't be until next season, can I put it on lay away?

 

[Go2Trackdays]

Although I still haven't reached the full capacity of the bikes capablilities, I am thinking of getting a new one.

It's easy to spend $ on hardware, it's really difficult to improve yourself

 

[silverbelt]

I'm a big fan of the GSX-R in the K5/K6 variety. Having also come from a 600, you won't nearly go as deep in the corners and you'll be too scared (initially anyways) to get on the gas to early. So, I guess it comes down to what kind of riding you'll be using the literbike for. The power is addicting, no doubt about it, and some of them are as light as a 600. You have any friends with literbikes you can test out to see which one you like?

 

[GPToyz]

ehhh 1000s just make you lazier...and they eat up more tires than 600s

after all today's 1000s and 600s are pretty similar in weight and parts

u just get up to the braking marker much much quicker

 

[mototireguy]

Or split the difference between a 600 and a 1000. Go 675 Triple, more grunt than a I4 600 but still spins up like a 600.

 

[Evol-E]

It took me a LONG time to get used to the throttle on my literbike after riding my 600 for so long. I was definetly slower on my liter than I was on my 600 for some time. You really have to learn throttle control. Now that I am a year into the literbike with two trackdays on it I think I am back to my 600 "times" if not a little faster.

My K5 GSXR 1K was smaller feeling than my 03 GSXR 600 so that made the transition a little easier.

It takes a lot of reservation and patience to try to ride a 1000 like a 600. But dam is it fun once you do!!!

 

[Med23]

It's easy to spend $ on hardware, it's really difficult to improve yourself

Absolutely...and I am well aware that I have room for much more improvement than I can get by just spending more $. That being said, it is just an idea I am toying with and I have liter envy.

 

[stangmx13]

seems to me that its much harder to improve rider skill on a more powerful "point and shoot" style bike. w/ the way new 600s have improved w/ power delivery among other things, u may be happy w/ jus another brand new 600.

 

[Archimedes]

Whatever you do, please don't become the guy who parks his 1k in the corners only to whack it open on the straight and outrace everyone trying to pass him only to get to the next corner and park it again. I hate that guy.

 

[Med23]

Whatever you do, please don't become the guy who parks his 1k in the corners only to whack it open on the straight and outrace everyone trying to pass him only to get to the next corner and park it again. I hate that guy.

Don't worry, those guys screw up my lap times too...so you don't have to worry about me doing that. I'll probably just park it in the gravel traps instead.

 

[bug_eyedmonster]

I'll be the first to admit, trying to improve my riding ability was, and still is one of the hardest things on the R1 compared to the R6 and the 749. The gearing, extra weight, and sheer power provent me from pushing the bike and myself as I did before. I've been thinking about jumping back down, but hey, to each his/her own...

Jerry

 

[afm199]

Lotta guys get on literbikes and discover they go slower than they did on 600s. It takes no skill to rider a literbike. It takes mucho to ride it fast.

 

[Just J]

Or split the difference between a 600 and a 1000. Go 675 Triple, more grunt than a I4 600 but still spins up like a 600.

+1 thats the next bike i'm seriously considering. a friend of mine used to own a couple 1K and 600s before.. and the 675 is perfect in terms of power/handling.

 

[Z3n]

600's on the track, literbikes on the street. Granted, I took my 929 to the wrong track (streets of willow ). A literbike will teach you amazing throttle control if you want to go fast on it, but that's going to come at the cost of being able to improve on anything else...

Besides, it's way more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow. That's why I own an SV. I'm still slow, but i feel fast when i can get to full throttle all the time

 

[MrCrash]

Lotta guys get on literbikes and discover they go slower than they did on 600s. It takes no skill to rider a literbike. It takes mucho to ride it fast.

It takes more work to ride one quickly too. The rotating mass of the crank makes them really difficult to turn at speed. I tried one, and went right back to a 750. Shedding the extra speed on corner entries takes more work, and putting the power to the ground coming off corners takes more concentration.

An online motorcycle magazine did a comparison years ago, with a top local racer, a solid club level racer, and a novice racer. Only the top local racer was faster on the 1000.

Who knows - the rush of the acceleration might be worth it to some people. For me, the 750 is the perfect compromise.

 

[Med23]

So, a couple of you mentioned the Triumph 675...how bout the baby Duc?

 

[mototireguy]

So, a couple of you mentioned the Triumph 675...how bout the baby Duc?

Boils down to British parts/service versus Italian parts/service.

Choose wisely.

 

[Hooli]

+100 to wait afm199, Z3n & MrCrash all said.

I have more fun on my 636 trackbike @ Thunderhill, but my K6 is still a blast on the street (restraining that right wrist, of course!)