A really beautiful moment - Marina Abramovic & Ulay

[Yakoo752]

pretentious and ridiculous. contrived and grandiose. .

those are some pretty big friggen words for you

should I pass the dictionary/thesaurus

I KID I KID - I've had a pint and am seriously just kidding

Otherwise it's a good comment regarding how it would be accepted in a different location!

 

[Abacinator]

I watched the documentary that dealt with her "exhibit". I find her to be pretentious and ridiculous. I found the scene with her ex lover to be contrived and grandiose. Many others were moved to tears by her. To each their own. I had a long debate about this "artist" with my GF, who finds her amusing. My last comment is thus: had she not been sitting in a well respected museum, with the publicity machine in full gear, but was instead sitting in a lawn chair in the middle of a yard in Idaho. Would people find it so moving? I doubt it.

But the guy sitting at a piano doing nothing for four and a half minutes is cool, right?

 

[SalCal]

Well I thought it was an awesome surprise interaction with a long lost friend/love. If only we could feel so positive toward those we have broken with...

 

[2strokeYardSale]

In Imponderabilia (1977, reenacted in 2010) two performers, both completely nude, stand in a doorway. The public must squeeze between them in order to pass, and in doing so choose which one of them to face.

Would be totally cool if one were male and one were female. Then the str8 doodz would have to choose to go junk-to-junk with a woman, but have another guy's junk at their ass. Or turn away from the woman and go mano-a-mano.

This should be done at the next BARF meet.

 

[psychocandy]

She's apparently become quite a fan of James Franco recently.

Nevertheless, quite a moment.

 

[littlebeast]

I watched the documentary that dealt with her "exhibit". I find her to be pretentious and ridiculous. I found the scene with her ex lover to be contrived and grandiose. Many others were moved to tears by her. To each their own. I had a long debate about this "artist" with my GF, who finds her amusing. My last comment is thus: had she not been sitting in a well respected museum, with the publicity machine in full gear, but was instead sitting in a lawn chair in the middle of a yard in Idaho. Would people find it so moving? I doubt it.

if i were an artist, i think i might be pleased that you had given this much thought to a response. or at a minimum, that you had one.

 

[elbacalao]

But the guy sitting at a piano doing nothing for four and a half minutes is cool, right?

No I dont think it was cool. I just disagreed that it was "nothing", and that the people who found it to be "something" were stupid.

 

[elbacalao]

Would be totally cool if one were male and one were female. Then the str8 doodz would have to choose to go junk-to-junk with a woman, but have another guy's junk at their ass. Or turn away from the woman and go mano-a-mano.

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In the reenactment in 2010, she did have male and female together in the doorway.

if i were an artist, i think i might be pleased that you had given this much thought to a response. or at a minimum, that you had one.

Yes. I dont discount a piece of art simply because I find it meaningless. Thousands of people found it to be profound, and walked away from her in tears. I respect that. If nothing else, performance artists get you thinking about where one's own boundaries exist in determining good and bad art.

 

[littlebeast]

Yes. I dont discount a piece of art simply because I find it meaningless. Thousands of people found it to be profound, and walked away from her in tears. I respect that. If nothing else, performance artists get you thinking about where one's own boundaries exist in determining good and bad art.

lovely of you to say. and i think in saying it, you crystalize the meaning and purpose of art.

 

[Dr. Evil]

My last comment is thus: had she not been sitting in a well respected museum, with the publicity machine in full gear, but was instead sitting in a lawn chair in the middle of a yard in Idaho. Would people find it so moving? I doubt it.

Now you're just talking about what people want to believe. People think this is powerful because that's what they choose to believe. Money is no different.

 

[Abacinator]

No I dont think it was cool. I just disagreed that it was "nothing", and that the people who found it to be "something" were stupid.

Snark fail on my part

 

[Nitewaif]

I kept expecting her to run after him.

 

[jdhu]

I watched the documentary that dealt with her "exhibit". I find her to be pretentious and ridiculous. I found the scene with her ex lover to be contrived and grandiose. Many others were moved to tears by her. To each their own. I had a long debate about this "artist" with my GF, who finds her amusing. My last comment is thus: had she not been sitting in a well respected museum, with the publicity machine in full gear, but was instead sitting in a lawn chair in the middle of a yard in Idaho. Would people find it so moving? I doubt it.

+1. I am no "artist," although I can appreciate some of it. I saw this artist at MoMa in NY, boring. Stare for 1 minute, wow, so amazing, so deep, so powerful, snore.

COol story about her ex and all that, but if you are going to take the extreme step of never seeing or talking to each other again (for whatever the fuck reason)...anyway some people will cry about anything.

 

[2strokeYardSale]

I missed the part where it said they had no contact. It said they broke up in 1988. Maybe they haven't seen or spoken to each other since then. Maybe they exchange e-mails once in a while. Maybe they speak on the phone every day and have a booty call once a week.

Her reaction suggests they haven't seen each other in years.

 

[jdhu]

I missed the part where it said they had no contact. It said they broke up in 1988. Maybe they haven't seen or spoken to each other since then. Maybe they exchange e-mails once in a while. Maybe they speak on the phone every day and have a booty call once a week.

Her reaction suggests they haven't seen each other in years.

Yeah, you are right. It says they haven't seen each other since then, but doesn't say no contact. Yeah, they probably sext daily...

 

[Nemo Brinker]

I was pretty impressed with that piece, though I could have done without the cheesy piano in the video. One of the elements that did come through was her absolutely trained, focused presence. Before Ulay shows up, she is just so much more still and open than any of the other people she has the little staring contest of sorts with. They're much more masked and less still than she is. And even when Ulay shows up, all emotive in his expression, she maintains her internal stillness and presence without going over the top emotionally. It's the kind of genuine reunion I might hope for with an old lover after many years.

Abramovic's body of work is pretty interesting. She seems intent on examining, with uncomfortable intensity, and then dissolving, the boundaries between self and other. She's managed to do that in a variety of ways, sticking to her project without repetition.

 

[mercurial]

I wonder if she was trained by Braco?

 

[elbacalao]

Now you're just talking about what people want to believe. People think this is powerful because that's what they choose to believe. Money is no different.

Maybe so. However, I think certain art goes straight to an emotional core for some people. Their intellect has little to do with it.

 

[number_6]

I was pretty impressed with that piece, though I could have done without the cheesy piano in the video. ....

yeah I first saw it in .gif form on a tumblr post and thought it seemed better that way. hrmmmmm .gif's makes me wish I wasn't banned from ChatRoullette

 

[rodr]

I kept expecting her to run after him.

What I found sad is that it was all set up for nothing to happen. Sometimes silence just isn't right.