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Action Required: ReOpen Clear Creek and what YOU can do!!!

Butch

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I'm gonna simplify this. This post is about what we need to do next. The process is past the "scoping" phase and i am think we are in limbo until the BLM releases the next "Draft Management Plan/ Draft EIS".


1. No specific action is needed right now.
I started this
http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=257123
to track where we are at.



1.5 I sent this to Barbara Boxer, Feinstein and Arnie:
Re: BLM Closure of CCMA Scoping comments
The decision of the BLM to close this important recreational area was based upon politically distorted science.
These public servants have compromised the enjoyment of tens of thousands of Californians and financial success of scores of local businesses.
Please reconsider the decision of the BLM to close this area based upon the harmful effects of short fiber Coalinga Crysotile (predominant Clear Creek variety) being the same as other asbestos. It is not. There have been no recorded health problems associated with the Coalinga Crysotile of Clear Creek. CCMA has been a popular OHV area for 40 years.
Science has been misrepresented to serve some special interests at the expense of the voting public and local businesses. This will have negative fiscal impact on the local cities, counties and the state.
This is irresponsible and unrepresentative behavior of or elected and appointed officials.


2. Write, fax, email, call as many of our wonderful public servants as you can, as listed in the next post... ESPECIALLY SAM FARR!!!
http://www.farr.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=202

3. go to "Friends of the CCMA" http://www.foccma.org/ and join...

4. Check out SBR
http://www.southbayriders.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=107

5. Check out Ed Tobin's blog
Link to Ed's blog
http://www.salinasramblersmc.org/Tobin/Blog/blog.htm

Check out the BLM Hollister site, which I do NOTfind informative:
http://www.blm.gov/ca/st/en/fo/hollister.html


You guys rock. You are the people that can take out government back from the special interests.
 
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CC who to contact

here's a good one:
Dirk Kempthorne is the United States Secretary of the Interior.

Wiki page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirk_Kempthorne
Department of Interior: http://www.doi.gov/welcome.html

To send an email to Dirk Kempthorne, you will have to send it to his secretary Lynn Scarlett.

Lynn_Scarlett@ios.doi.gov
Phone: 202-208-3980


My Congressperson:
Zoe Lofgren
District Office
635 North 1st Street, Suite B
San Jose, CA 95112
Telephone (408) 271-8700


from our friends at SBR. WOW.

how/where to email/fax/write

Papi from SBR was kind enough to put this contact list together for us. Copied and pasted from SBR:

Sending the EPA and GOV email, calls and addresses to Re-Open CCMA and Protect OHV!

This is OUR ACTION LIST of Gov, Lobbyist and Corporate Influencers to Get CCMA open and save our OHV Areas

I have started my emailing, faxing, mailing and calling campaign. I am also going to post the list of email, addresses and phone numbers (Voice and Fax) of the EPA Officials, BLM, State, and every government official we can communicate to. Email addresses will be checked to the best of my ability for validity and currency. If you have em, send them to me via PM and I will post em here.

EMAIL, NUMBERS & ADDRESSES OF AGENCIES AND CONTACTS. REMEMBER, BE NICE, DO NOT THREATEN OR SPEAK OR JOKE OF HARM. THESE AGENCIES CAN USE THE DHS TO TRACK YOU DOWN AND ARREST YOU. MAKE A POINT AND BE POLITE. SHOW THEM WE ARE A GREAT BUNCH OF FOLKS THAT HAVE LOST A SIGNIFICANT RESOURCE.

WRITE, EMAIL, CALL, FAX!!! DO IT ALL.
BUT DO SOMETHING, AT LEAST ONCE OR TWICE A DAY, EVERYDAY!

NOTE: LIST WILL BE UPDATED AS I GO. PM ME WITH ANY I MISSED.

EPA We are in EPA District 9

simms.mary@epa.gov Mary Simms

johnson.stephen@epa.gov Stephen Johnson is the Administrator of the EPA (TOP DOG)

johnson.kathleen@epa.gov Kathleen Johnson is the Director of Public Affairs for EPA District 9

diamond.jane@epa.gov Jane Diamond is the Director of Policy and Management for the EPA District 9

manzanilla.enrique@epa.gov Enrique Manzanilla is the Director of Communities and Ecosystems for the EPA District 9

U.S. Congressional Representatives
Each of us lives in one of these Districts. Write, Call, FAX your Congressional Representative today!

District 10 Ellen O.Tauscher
Walnut Creek office at (925) 932-8899
2121 North California Blvd., Suite 555 (Tower B)
Staff Listing:
* Jennifer Barton ~ District Director
Emai * Kellymarie Demaray ~ Congressional Aide
* Erik Ridley ~ Field Representative
* Ricardo Blanco ~ Field Representative
* Remy Goldsmith ~ Field Representative
* Karen Tedford ~ Constituent Services Manager
* Mark Herbert ~ Congressional Aide

District 11 Jerry McNerney
District Office: Pleasanton Office
5776 Stoneridge Mall Rd. #175
Pleasanton, CA 94588
(925) 737-0727
(408) 744-0727
Fax: (925) 737-0734

Stockton Office
2222 Grand Canal Blvd. #7
Stockton, CA 95207
(209) 476-8552
Fax: (209) 476-8587

Washington, D.C. Office
312 Cannon House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515
Voice: (202) 225-1947 Fax: (202) 225-4060



District 12 Jackie Speier
District Office: 400 S. El Camino Real, Suite 410, San Mateo, CA 94402
Voice: 650-342-0300 FAX: 650-375-8270

DC Office: 2413 Rayburn HOB, Washington, DC 20515 — (202) 225-3531


District 15 Michael M. Honda
email: mike.honda@mail.house.gov

District 18 Dennis A. Cardoza


State of California

Governor's Office:
Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger (STATE TOP DOG)
State Capitol Building
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 916-445-2841
Fax: 916-558-3160 ( new number )

Governors District Offices:
Fresno Office
2550 Mariposa Mall #3013
Fresno, CA 93721
Phone: 559-445-5295
Fax: 559-445-5328

Los Angeles Office
300 South Spring Street
Suite 16701
Los Angeles, CA 90013
Phone: 213-897-0322
Fax: 213-897-0319

Riverside Office
3737 Main Street #201
Riverside, CA 92501
Phone: 951-680-6860
Fax: 951-680-6863

San Diego Office
1350 Front Street
Suite 6054
San Diego, CA 92101
Phone: 619-525-4641
Fax: 619-525-4640

San Francisco Office
455 Golden Gate Avenue
Suite 14000
San Francisco, CA 94102
Phone: 415-703-2218
Fax: 415-703-2803

Washington D.C. Office
134 Hall of the States
444 North Capitol Street NW
Washington D.C. 20001
Phone: 202-624-5270
Fax: 202-624-5280


U.S. Department of the Interior

Dirk Kempthorne, Secretary of the Interior (DOI TOP DOG)

BLM

Jim Caswell, Director of the BLM (BLM TOP DOG)
Emailto: James_Caswell@blm.gov

Bureau of Land Management
California State Office
2800 Cottage Way, Suite W-1834
Sacramento, CA 95825
Phone: (916) 978-4400
Fax: (916) 978-4416

Emailto: Mike_Pool@ca.blm.gov Mike is the BLM California State Director (STATE BLM TOP DOG)
(916) 978-4600

Emailto: Jim_Abbott@ca.blm.gov Jim is Associate State Director
(916) 978-4600

Hollister Field Office CA190
Bureau of Land Management
20 Hamilton Court
Hollister, CA 95023
Phone: (831) 630-5000
Fax: (831) 630-5055

Emailto: Rick_Cooper@ca.blm.gov Rick is the Field Manager in Hollister
(831) 630-5000


-- OUR LOBBYISTS ---

Our Lobby is not just "named" lobbyists. It is Motorcycle Manuf, Parts and accessory Manuf and everyone involved in the business of making money with powersports. These groups and companies have a say in their political contributions as well. Let them all know how we are effected by losing our OHV lands.

AMA - The American Motorcycle Assoc.
Join the AMA.
Go here to learn more: http://www.amadirectlink.com/whatis/index.asp
Go here to Join NOW: http://www.amadirectlink.com/whatis/index.asp


BRC - The Blue Ribbon Coalition
Join the BRC!
Go here to learn more about the BRC: http://www.sharetrails.org/
Go here to Join NOW: https://www.sharetrails.org/secure/join_or_contribute/

Here is a list of AMA Corporate Members that MAKE MONEY off our riding.
Write to all of them and tell them that our District 9 EPA is taking away your ability to buy more
from them as we cannot ride in our designated areas because of this EPA action. THIS IS HOW CORPORATE MONEY WILL GET THE MESSAGE TO THE EPA AND OUR GOV OFFICIALS FAST.

AMA Corporate Members

Advanstar Communications
201 E. Sandpointe, Ste. 600
Santa Ana, CA 92707-5761

Aero Design & Manufacturing Co.
8 S. 18th Ave. West
Duluth, MN 55806-2148

AIG Specialty Auto
4501 Northpoint Pkwy., Suite 500
Alpharetta, GA 30022

American Honda Motor Co.
1919 Torrance Blvd.
Torrance, CA 90501-2746

American Suzuki Motor Corp.
P.O. Box 1100
Brea, CA 92622

BikeBandit.com
7625 Panasonic Way, Suite B
San Diego, CA 92154

BikerHiway
16525 Sherman Way, C-11
Van Nuys, CA 91406

BMW of North America
P.O. Box 1227
Westwood, NJ 07675-1227

Bridgestone/Firestone North America Tire, LLC
535 Marriott Dr.,
Nashville, TN 37214

Clymer Publications
9800 Metcalf Ave.
Overland Park, KS 66212

Cruiser Customizing, Inc.
4671 Las Positas Rd., Bldg. C
Livermore, CA 94551

Cycle Gear, Inc.
4950 Industrial Way
Benicia, CA 94510
(707) 747-5053

Cycle News Inc.
P.O. Box 5084
Costa Mesa, CA 92628

CycleTrader.com
295 Bendix Rd., 3rd Fl.
Virginia Beach, VA 23452
(757) 321-8261

Dimension Services
400 Metro Place North
Suite 300
Dublin, OH 43017

Don Emde Productions
15 Enterprise, Suite 110
Aliso Viejo, CA 92656

Ducati North America Inc.
10443 Bandley Dr.
Cupertino, CA 95014

Dunlop Tire Corp.
P.O. Box 1109
Buffalo, NY 14240-1109

Dynojet Research Inc.
2191 Mendenhall Dr., #105
N. Las Vegas, NV 89030

Ehlert Publishing Group
6420 Sycamore Ln., N.
Maple Grove, MN 55369

Fairchild Sports
15602 Mosher Ave.
Tustin, CA 92780

Filter Publications, LLC
122 Vista Del Rio Dr.
Morgantown, WV 26508

Fix My Hog, Inc.
3853 Belmont Avenue
San Diego, CA 92116

Foremost Insurance Group
5600 Beech Tree Ln.
Caledonia, MI 49316

GEICO Powersports
1345 Perimeter Parkway
Virginia Beach, VA 23454

Guardian Warranty Corporation
407 McAlpine Street
Avoca, PA 18641

Harley-Davidson, Inc.
P.O. Box 653
Milwaukee, WI 53201-0653

Hughes Recreational Products, Inc.
185 Kingsland St.
Nutley, NJ 07110

Kawasaki Motors Corporation
9950 Jeronimo Road
Irvine, CA 92618-2016

KK Motorcycle Supply
431 E. Third St.
Dayton, OH 45402-2116

KTM North America, Inc.
1119 Milan Ave.
Amherst, OH 44001

M/C Enterprises
460 S. Lombard St.
Oxnard, CA 93030

McGraw Insurance Services
3601 Haven Avenue
Menlo Park, CA 94025

Michelin North America Inc.
P.O. Box 19001
Greenville, SC 29602-9001

Mikuni American Corp.
8910 Mikuni Ave.
Northridge, CA 91324-3403

Motorcycle Industry Magazine
P.O. Box 160
Gardnerville, NV 89410-0160

Motorcycle Mechanics Institute
2844 W. Deer Valley Rd.
Phoenix, AZ 85027

Motorcycle Product News
4130 Lien Rd.
Madison, WI 53704

Moto Sport Outlet, Inc.
1855 W. 2nd Ave., Suite C-1
Eugene, OR 97402

National Auto Research "Black Book"
P.O. Box 758
Gainesville, GA 30503

Nationwide Insurance
1100 Locust St.
Des Moines, IA 50391

Parts Unlimited/Drag Specialties
P.O. Box 5222
Janesville, WI 53547-5222

Paul Oxman Publishing, Inc.
180 Gallagher Crest Road
Henderson, NV 89074

Piaggio Group Americas, Inc.
140 E. 45th St.
New York, NY 10017

Pirelli Motorcycle Tires North America
P.O. Box 700
Rome, GA 30162

PJH Brands
8747 E. Via de Commercio
Scottsdale, AZ 85258

PowerSport Institute
1374 E. 51st St.
Cleveland, OH 44103

Riley Racing, Inc.
9380 E. Bahia Dr., Suite A-102
Scottsdale, AZ 85260

Roadracing World Publishing, Inc.
581-C Birch St.
Lake Elsinore, CA 92530

Selman & Company
6110 Parkland Blvd.
Cleveland, OH 44124

Shade Tree Powersports
15141 Kinsman Rd.
Middlefield, OH 44062

State Motorcycle Safety Administrators
7881 S. Wellington St.
Centennial, CO 80122

SuperTrapp Industries
4540 W. 160th
Cleveland, OH 44135

Triumph Motorcycles
385 Walt Sanders Memorial Dr.
Newnan, GA 30265

Uni Filter Inc.
1468 Manhattan Ave.
Fullerton, CA 92831

Wiseco Piston
7201 Industrial Park Blvd.
Mentor, OH 44060

WyoTech Daytona
470 Destination Daytona Ln.
Ormond Beach, FL 32174

Xtreme Parts
640 Johnson Ave., Suite 6
Bohemia, NY 11716

Yamaha Motor Corp.
6555 Katella Ave.
Cypress, CA 90630

YTI Career Institute
Motorcycle Technology Center
52-6 Grumbacher Road
York, PA 17406


When you write the an email to particular gov agency (or any government office for that matter), REMEMBER, THIS IS A GOVERNMENT AGENCY. DO NOT MAKE JOKES ABOUT THREATS OR HARM. THEY WILL HAVE YOU ARRESTED. BE POLITE, BE COURTEOUS, AND MAKE A GOOD, SOLID POINT. YOU WILL FUCK IT UP FOR ALL OF US IF YOU HARASS THEM. JUST BE NICE. MAKE A GOOD POINT AND BE DONE WITH IT. HOWEVER, YOU CAN SEND MORE THAN ONE EMAIL. SEND MANY, BUT BE NICE.

Here is my standard template that they will get:

From:
Subject: CCMA
Date: April 30, 2008 11:28:39 PM PDT
To: [email]simms.mary@epa.gov

What is the EPA guidance to the BLM on the closure of the CCMA and those of us OHV citizens that now have less approved OHV areas to ride?

Where does the EPA expect us to take our families for these OHV outings?

Why after 40 years of using the CCMA is it Now a threat?

Thank you for your response,

-Steve Chappell
AMA Member,
AMA D36 #223M



Another Sample Email already sent by me, REMEMBER, BE NICE.

From:
Subject: EPA action on CCMA
Date: April 30, 2008 11:47:48 PM PDT
To: [email]johnson.stephen@epa.gov


Dear Mr. Johnson,

I know as the Administrator of the EPA you are very busy.

However, in District 9 we have received very troubling news today about the emergency
closure of the Clear Creek Management Area.

As an outdoor family, our family and friends have raised our children to be outdoor
enthusiasts. Our sport is Off Road and OHV trips, camping and family time outdoors.

We have used this avenue to raise kids that are aware of the environment we live in,
and to "tread lightly".

However, the emergency closure of the Clear Creek Management Area has put thousands
of families at risk of not having an OHV area to enjoy.

All of us our shocked that after 30 to 40 years of patronizing CCMA, we are now told the EPA's
action is for our protection. How are we threatened by CCMA sir? The BLM has done a great job
at managing the area, and the last time we checked, not one person has suffered any illness
by repeated (and in some cases hundreds) of visits to CCMA.

We ask you to please help us lift this "Emergency Closure", allow the EIS to continue,
and give the BLM the management over the area they have without closure.

Our families need CCMA.

Thank you kindly for your consideration.

Steve Chappell
AMA Member
AMA D36, #223M

Another Sample and Sent to the BLM Director

From:
Subject: CCMA EPA Action
Date: May 1, 2008 1:49:03 AM PDT
To: [email]Mike_Pool@ca.blm.gov

Dear Mr. Pool,

What is the EPA guidance to the BLM on the closure of the CCMA and those of us OHV citizens that now have less
approved OHV areas to ride?

Where does the EPA expect us to take our families for these OHV outings?

Why after 40 years of using the CCMA is it Now a threat?

We are a growing group of concerned families that our public OHV areas are being stripped away.

Please help us get back CCMA. We are proud of the way the BLM has managed CCMA and need your support sir.

Kindly,

-Steve Chappell
AMA Member and CCMA Supporter
__________________
member Blue Ribbon Coalition
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Thanks buddy! Writing Arnold S was fun. I've never written the Big Guy before. Hrm, maybe I should write the dude in the White House next. :teeth
 
I'll be there. Got to make a statement and have our voice heard.

Eddie
 
I just scoped out the open house. Pretty Cool.

The meeting is in the "Elizabeth Hang Theatre". Tickets at five, doors at six. Seriously. The theatre holds a little over six hundred.

Papi from SBR is probably a good voice for us, but we need your bodies there to demonstrate our significance. The begining will probablly be informational on the health risks of asbestos, then, I dunno, Q & A? I imagine it will get pretty lively.

Please stop by, if only to see the exchange for a limited time.

Save Clear Creek.
__________________
 
I'm hoping Don Amador (Western representative for the Blue Ribbon Coalition) will show up with at least one of his legal staff.
 
I was there last night and I have a few comments:

1) 1) I was impressed with Papa. You are very articulate and make a great spokesman for the dirt biking community. Good job let me know what I can do to help.
2) The EPA did a very thorough job on their test of asbestos. They did the statistical analysis and presented a good case that asbestos is present and according to OSHA safety standards, it is concentrations are great enough to be harmful. However, there was no third party to validate the data. If the people are analyzing the data and are biased, then they could easily bias the data to meet their agenda. Everybody knows who the EPA is and what they represent, so it is no surprise at the outcome of the data. The test needs to be done by a third party to insure the data is valid and not biased. By does anybody remember the MTBF disaster caused by the EPA? Was there a third party to review their data that could have stopped that? We should demand a third party test.
3) I think the best argument we have is the risk more injuries caused by overcrowding of our existing riding areas. Where are the estimated 35,000 off road riders going to go? Hollister is an absolute zoo, I can’t remember the last time I went there and not seen an ambulance or an emergency air vac. I think we could argue the risk of injury do to riding in overcrowded ohv parks far exceeds the risk of disease caused by riding at CCMA.
4) I liked the idea that someone had of donating our federal rebates to the BRC. I’ll take it one more step. For birthdays, father’s day, etc. I’ll donate money to BRC in that person’s name. This will be great to piss off the liberals in my family. I know what my father’s day gift will be to my dad (he’s a dirt biker, so he’ll dig it).
5) I know of one or two Bay Area celebrity who might be sympathetic to our cause. Dr. Bill Wattenberg from the liberal news talk radio station KGO is very critical of the EPA (listen to his show; he spends hours railing against the EPA). I’ll try to e-mail him and see if he has any interest in this asbestos test. Another potential ally is Dr. Michael Savage on KNEW. He has a PHD in epidemiology and might have some insight on the risk of asbestos in a natural environment. His son is a big wig for Rockstar Energy drink that supports motor sports like supercross and motocross.
6) I’m starting my letter writing campaign ASAP.
 
The closure of CCMA is depressing, to make matters worse, San Benito county is thinking about seizing this opportunity and sealing off Idria. They tried to sell the town at auction earlier this month but thankfully some people at three rock research were able to put a hold on things.

Not only is CCMA a great place to ride and wheel, it is also packed with history.
 
so Clear Creek is 100% closed? Ive never even been there :(

Now that i can do all of the hardest trails at Hollister too :( will i have no where else to step it up?

That must be why all i hear is "Jawbone" since its prob the next best thing.

is there a link where i can find out whats going on?

Thanks
 
I picked up the two public scoping forms at the Hollister meeting. The ten pager is really lame, kinda like the one at the linky. www.blm.gov/ca/hollister

I asked the BLM for electronic versions to post, but no response.

There is a one page "Public Scoping Worksheet" that is pretty good.

I'm thinking we should fax them. Faxes are a little more difficult to delete than emails.
 
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I sent this (I'm Gus in the working world...):

Dear Sir:

Please be aware of this taxpayer's dissatisfaction with the decision of Rick Cooper of the BLM to close this important recreational area.

The decision was based upon politically distorted science.

These public servants have compromised the enjoyment of tens of thousands of Californians and financial success of scores of local businesses.

Please look into the decision of the BLM to close this area based upon the harmful effects of short fiber Coalinga Crysotile (predominant Clear Creek variety) being the same as other asbestos. It is not. There have been no recorded health problems associated with the Coalinga Crysotile of Clear Creek. CCMA has been a popular OHV area for 40 years.

Science has been misrepresented to serve some special interests at the expense of the voting public and local businesses. This will have negative fiscal impact on the local cities, counties and the state. Please help.

Gus Meyner
927 MacDuff Court
San Jose 95127
bayarearidersforum.com
 
Butch... thanks for helping on this! :thumbup

:smoking
 
I just sent this to

http://boxer.senate.gov/contact/email/policy.cfm
and
http://feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=ContactUs.EmailMe


BLM Closure of the Clear Creek management Area (CCMA)

CCMA is a offroad and hiking and camping area between Hollister and Coalinga that has provided countless hours of family enjoyment for thousands of people.

The decision of the BLM to close this important recreational area was based upon politically distorted science.

These public servants have compromised the enjoyment of tens of thousands of Californians and financial success of scores of local businesses.

Please address the decision of the BLM to close this area based upon the harmful effects of short fiber Coalinga Crysotile (predominant Clear Creek variety) being the same as other asbestos. It is not

There have been no recorded health problems associated with the Coalinga Crysotile of Clear Creek. CCMA has been a popular OHV area for 40 years.

Science has been misrepresented to serve some special interests at the expense of the voting public and local businesses. This will have negative fiscal impact on the local cities, counties and the state.
This is irresponsible and unrepresentative behavior of or elected and appointed officials.

Courtesy of response is requested.
 
stolen from SBR and really good perspective:

"Benitoite"

Mr Mike,

Since I'm the guy who wrote one of the threads you posted here, I thought it would be best to join this forum and reply to you personally.

On LA Rocks, I am BR Rockshoppe, AKA Rick Kennedy. I am a local Benitoite fanatic out of San Jose and people on that forum and others look to me for information about the Benitoite Gem Mine, one of the many jewels of the CCMA. Since the time I wrote that post, Dave Schreiner, the owner of the mine has not been allowed to bring a single customer to his mine and he is suffering financially because of this.

I am very much for allowing this man and his customers access to his own private property, but I also believe quite strongly that the area should be open to all.

Kim Noyes (He's a guy by the way) does not represent myself or most rockhounders, we gotta drive our 4 X 4's anywhere we are going to collect, so we're the bad guys too according to the EPA. Also, in a later post, Kim apologized for his poor taste in words.

Here is a post I wrote on May 18th in that forum titled "CCMA, Asbestos and Politics:

Greetings rockhounders,

I've been watching some of the discussion about the Benitoite Gem Mine
and the CCMA closure. Although I'm not a big fan of conspiracies, I
think somebody somewhere has an agenda.

Why do I think that? The facts and science simply do not add up.

First of all, what is it that leads an organization to test for unsafe
conditions? It has been my experience that one does not go to the
doctor and ask for a pneumonia test if one has no symptoms. If enough
people get sick that share a hobby or live within the same area, then
concerns are raised and scientists try to find out 1. If there is any
connection and B. What that connection is. Once a concern for public
health is established, then government gets involved to try and help
solve the problem. In this case, just the opposite has happened, the
government has been trying to start a fire where there isn't one so
they can get credit for putting it out.

First of all, Chrysotile is a more brittle mineral than the amphibole
asbestos minerals. Studies have shown that it breaks down and leaves
the body at rates up to 5000 times that of amphibole asbestos.

The recent EPA study was minimalistic at best, samples having been
collected during five weekends and a total of only 250 or so samples
to analyze. They only sampled routes from the Clear Creek watershed
and did not differentiate between those samples by route. When you
are trying to measure a risk that is considered hazardous at a 1 in
1000 rate of cancer, thousands of samples should have been analyzed
from all over the CCMA and the different routes and times of day
should have been broken down and studied.

The "Smoking Gun" of the EPA report was that even during the wet
season, asbestos exposure was similar to that of summer. That was
based on samples taken one weekend in November 2004. Even the authors
of the study said that they were surprised by this outcome. Instead
of applying proper scientific method and retesting under similar
conditions to check their data, they simply explained that they were
confident that their data was good. It is this part of the study that
I believe forced the BLM's hand into ordering a full rather than
seasonal closure for the area.

Medical records for people associated with the area have not been
looked at, no study has been done to see if there is any correlation
between the people that frequent the area and asbestos related disease.

So what's the agenda? You got me. It could be that it is just too
expensive to maintain and the government would like to save the $$.
It could be that the EPA is looking to expand the Atlas Superfund Site
into the entire CCMA so it can show Congress how it is putting out
this huge fire and keep people employed for another 20 years. It may
be that there have been too many lawsuits and they feel they can avoid
future litigation by closing the area.

What I do know is that this is a fight and that all people who enjoy
the area need to stay focused and not in-fight. Mineral collectors,
Lapidarists, Private Property owners, OHV recreationalists, Hunters
and commercial miners are all in this together. We are an odd
coalition, but could be formidable.

Rick Kennedy
 
Butch said:
Medical records for people associated with the area have not been
looked at, no study has been done to see if there is any correlation
between the people that frequent the area and asbestos related disease.

So what's the agenda? You got me.

Rick Kennedy
Click to expand...

The lady from the EPA made their agenda PERFECTLY CLEAR to me at the Santa Clara meeting. When a guy asked her if they tested any of the animals in the area for asbestos related issues her reply was...."You mean the ones without tire tracks on them?"

:wtf
 
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