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Advice moving from SV to R6

scotinexcile

scotinexcile

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Street: 2017 R6, 1982 RD350LC
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Alan
I am going to take the R6 out to THill on Tuesday after racing the SV at Vegas this weekend. Any contructive :twofinger advice on what I should look for, do differently when riding the R6?
I have only put about 6 or 7 laps on the R6 at Fontana in early January so it is very new to me. The last time I went from the SV to a GSXR 750 did not turn out so well :teeth
thanks in advance :thumbup
 
Remember to shift and keep the revs up. USE THE TACH. If you shift it by sound like an SV you'll go really slow. You really have to remember that the 600s make less power and torque than an SV up to about 12000 rpm. So you sound like you're going fast as hell but you're not.
 
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The two bikes are the same, only different. :teeth

Brake sooner, you're approaching the corner faster on a bike with less engine braking than a V-twin. And there are only like 20 fast AFM people on an R6 to give you tips. :p
 
not Alan tho! :twofinger

just kidding Alan. Are you still racing your SV in AFM?
 
Think "domestic violence". Ride it like it owes you money...

Everything happens alot quicker Alan. Focus on getting OFF the corner but getting in easier and pointed quicker. Work on those entries last, not first. When you're able to pick up the throttle (rolling on to WFO) and not roll off or do another direction change, then start working on those entries. Everyone wants to ride an R6 into, through, and out of the corner like an SV. They're not an SV so they ride a tad different in different parts of the corner. Learn how the R6 behaves in the Exit, Middle and entry of the corner...and in that order. Breaking the corner into 3 sections is important IMO of course...
 
Holeshot said:
Think "domestic violence". Ride it like it owes you money...

Everything happens alot quicker Alan. Focus on getting OFF the corner but getting in easier and pointed quicker. Work on those entries last, not first. When you're able to pick up the throttle (rolling on to WFO) and not roll off or do another direction change, then start working on those entries. Everyone wants to ride an R6 into, through, and out of the corner like an SV. They're not an SV so they ride a tad different in different parts of the corner. Learn how the R6 behaves in the Exit, Middle and entry of the corner...and in that order. Breaking the corner into 3 sections is important IMO of course...
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I appreciate the advice and will put that into play when I get on the track Tuesday :thumbup
 
I did a similar thing this year, although I was jumping from the SV to a GSXR. I'll +1 Ernie on needing to use the tach until you adjust to the sound of the bike. Get a quickshifter if you can, they're the bizness.

Besides that the biggest change for me was on the brakes, anyone who's raced with me on the SV knows I'm super weak on the brakes, but the GSX-R chassis was so much more stable on the brakes (and the sumo experience helped a bunch too) that I was actually braking at around the same spot, although I was braking a lot harder.

A little bit of time on a big track helps to adjust to the speed.

None of this is probably helpful. :laughing
 
What year R6? The latest model or the more relaxed ones from about 5 years back.

TT
 
Going fast on an SV or an R6 requires the same set of skills - taking advantage of what lasts longest (khill's favorite phrase), throttle ties to lean angle, using the whole track, consistency, etc. They just need to be a bit sharper a bit sooner on the R6.

The SV allows you to get away with mediocre throttle control up to a pretty decent laptime. Lift bike up, whack throttle, go. On the R6, there's more time between 0% and 100% throttle. Managing the throttle, lean angle and trajectory together takes more practice than an SV. I'd spend some time focusing on that, at least at first.

Also, keeping the revs up isn't just about making more power. When you're coming off a corner at 12k, the suspension behaves very differently (generally better) than when you're too low in the revs. Get in the habit of wringing its neck everywhere, get used to the feel, and only then fiddle with setup.

Good seeing you this weekend. You haul the mail on a snowboard.
 
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AFM535 said:
Going fast on an SV or an R6 requires the same set of skills - taking advantage of what lasts longest (khill's favorite phrase), throttle ties to lean angle, using the whole track, consistency, etc. They just need to be a bit sharper a bit sooner on the R6.

The SV allows you to get away with mediocre throttle control up to a pretty decent laptime. Lift bike up, whack throttle, go. On the R6, there's more time between 0% and 100% throttle. Managing the throttle, lean angle and trajectory together takes more practice than an SV. I'd spend some time focusing on that, at least at first.

Also, keeping the revs up isn't just about making more power. When you're coming off a corner at 12k, the suspension behaves very differently (generally better) than when you're too low in the revs. Get in the habit of wringing its neck everywhere, get used to the feel, and only then fiddle with setup.

Good seeing you this weekend. You haul the mail on a snowboard.
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Thanks for the advice sorry I did not get to snowboard with you and Jason more it would have been fun:thumbup
 
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