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Anyone want to rent motorcycle for DMV test

ScottRNelson said:
Hey, I can offer, because so far nobody has taken me up on one. I can look good without actually doing anything. :laughing
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Your generosity and kindness to new(ish) riders looking to get their M1 is to be commended. Props to you for offering to help, even if no one takes you up on it. :)
 
Just remember only the front wheel has to stay in the circle—not the rear. It takes away much of the stress about the circle jerk they have you perform.

Agreed supersport is difficult but a little clutch, rev, and rear brake make the test easy.
 
Make sure you have evidence of registration and insurance when you go to take the test otherwise they won't let you take the test.
 
So if you can't do the keyhole without dropping the foot can you really do a correct U-turn on the streets without putting your foot down? :confused I thought that was the purpose of the keyhole.

After doing MSF, I went over to a local DMV keyhole and did the keyhole just for the hell of it and it was actually easier than it looks.
 
Pking said:
So if you can't do the keyhole without dropping the foot can you really do a correct U-turn on the streets without putting your foot down? :confused I thought that was the purpose of the keyhole.
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I practice tight U-turns when I need to make one, but they're not as tight as the DMV test.

There are a few bikes out there that have a turning diameter larger than the 24 feet of the outer circle. I had a 1993 Ducati 888 SPO with a turning diameter of 27 feet. There is no way anybody is going to pass that test on a bike like that.

I've been riding for quite a few decades and have learned to be a safe rider through a lot of study and practice, and I don't see much relevance to real world riding in that test.
 
I see you have Sunnyvale listed as your location...

If nothing has changed, avoid doing your test at the Santa Clara DMV that's right near Lawrence expy. Back in the 1990's the spot they had the keyhole set up was on a pretty significant slope. While I never had any issue with other keyhole set ups throughout the county, (I would do them for fun) I just couldn't do that one back in the day. It was just too hard to regulate my speed on that particular course.

I should go see if I can do it now on the land barge!
 
madsen203 said:
Just remember only the front wheel has to stay in the circle—not the rear. It takes away much of the stress about the circle jerk they have you perform.

Agreed supersport is difficult but a little clutch, rev, and rear brake make the test easy.
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So, like this, then?

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raghav706 said:
Thanks guys, will look through CL, turning on the circle is really difficult on a supersport without foot down(last time I tried). May be with some more practice, do not have time for classes!
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In case you're not aware: when you do low-speed turns, lean the opposite way you normally would. For a right turn, you lean left and push the bike in to the right. This decreases the turning radius.

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ScottRNelson said:
I practice tight U-turns when I need to make one, but they're not as tight as the DMV test.

There are a few bikes out there that have a turning diameter larger than the 24 feet of the outer circle. I had a 1993 Ducati 888 SPO with a turning diameter of 27 feet. There is no way anybody is going to pass that test on a bike like that.

I've been riding for quite a few decades and have learned to be a safe rider through a lot of study and practice, and I don't see much relevance to real world riding in that test.
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That's exactly the problem, turning diameter is is almost greater than 27 feet on my 2009 zx6r!
 
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Here's some tips for slow speed maneuvers. Like the picture showed above at slow speed counterbalancing or weighting is more effective (I use counterbalancing a lot when riding offroad too).

Shift your weight to the outside peg from the direction of turn.

If you feel you need to counter balance more like the bike is going to fall over you can take your outside foot off of the footpeg kind of like that flat tracker style, it probably feels weird on a supersport though.

Keep your head looking forward into the turn, don't look down, if you need to look down use your peripheral I guess since your target on the test is to keep the front wheel in the lines.

Also not sure if your bike is fuel injected or not but make sure your bike is warmed up and running smoothly. Try not to roll on and off the throttle suddenly as it upsets the bikes balance, try to slip the clutch more. A trick I did during my test was to increase the idle screw on the carb and just slipped the clutch so I wouldn't have to worry about the throttle much.
 
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raghav706 said:
That's exactly the problem, turning diameter is is almost greater than 27 feet on my 2009 zx6r!
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Did you actually measure it?

I used a measuring tape to check the two Ducatis that I owned at the time. The 888 was 27 feet, but the ST2 was 22 feet. You hold the bar at full lock and walk it around a circle to find out the actual turning diameter. I bet your ZX6R is way less than 27 feet. Go measure it and report back.
 
But you don't keep the bike upright when turning, right? I mean, I don't...that only happens when you're basically duckwalking it. If you lean the bike over, does that not decrease the radius?
 
Kornholio said:
But you don't keep the bike upright when turning, right? I mean, I don't...that only happens when you're basically duckwalking it. If you lean the bike over, does that not decrease the radius?
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Have you looked at the speeds you're required to go on a DMV test? How much lean angle can you get? I would be surprised of you could gain three inches of turning diameter there.
 
ScottRNelson said:
Hey, I can offer, because so far nobody has taken me up on one. I can look good without actually doing anything. :laughing
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Can I just lie and tell you I need to take the test so I can ride your XR for old time sake? It's been a long time since I was on a dirt bike.
 
Mr Pepsi said:
Can I just lie and tell you I need to take the test so I can ride your XR for old time sake? It's been a long time since I was on a dirt bike.
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Come on over. I'll let you ride it. You want to do all street, or visit Carnegie and get some dirt in too?

I'm serious.
 
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