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"As a pure driving proposition, it's superior to nearly every other sporting vehicle on the market."

flying_hun said:
Wait! :wtf The TT is RWD?!?!?! Learn something new everyday! :banana
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Bored at work, old man? :twofinger

I think there's a FWD version for the hairdressers and a Quattro version for the poseurs. I put the Quattro in the same basket as the RWD roadsters. But that's just me. YMMV. :p
 
Archimedes said:
With the same skill driver, both of the top cars will beat or flat destroy a Miata almost anywhere, except the heavy one on an autocross course. They will turn faster lap times on any real race track, pull more g's on the skidpad and run quicker times in the figure 8. And the more the environment allows you to stretch the car's legs, the bigger the gap would be.

Again, they're wayyyy more expensive than a Miata, so the bang for the buck is certainly in the Miata's favor. But the hype/myth of the Miata as an amazing sportscar is just nonsense.
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And how often do you go to the track, where you can pull maximum G?

Face it, in urban environments, the Miata is just more fun to flick around than anything else. It's so small that there's ROOM to do that. That's not true with a bigger, heavier car. You're not going to flick the wheel of a Mustang in a residential cul-de-sac, the way you could with a Miata.

The bigger & heavier the car, the more you HAVE to take it to the track, to have any fun with its "handling".
 
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Reli said:
You do realize the Miata has a trunk, right?

And you do realize most Miata drivers have another vehicle, right? Just like most Corvette drivers do.
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I suppose if you shop regularly at Costco, that package of 108 rolls of TP will fill the boot, and then no room for the 60 bottles of beer. :laughing

Having owned --solely-- a small two-seater for the last 11 years, there has never been a day that wifey and I needed more room than our modest boot.
 
AbsolutEnduser said:
Dunno why it was mentioned, it is a Miata thread, but after all maybe it was mentioned because the GTI is superior to a Miata in pretty much every everyday way, except maybe for being stereotyped?

The Miata has got the GTI plain beat in stereotyping! :p :laughing

Funny thing is about the GTI is that you will read a lot about it's brilliance in every magazine and you will even see it destroy a BMWr in one of the episodes of Top Gear; a show famous for taking down "renowned" cars a peg or two. :dunno



:laughing :thumbup
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To be fair, that's no VW Golf GTI in the video. The video shows a VW Golf R32.
 
Marcoose said:
I suppose if you shop regularly at Costco, that package of 108 rolls of TP will fill the boot, and then no room for the 60 bottles of beer. :laughing

Having owned --solely-- a small two-seater for the last 11 years, there has never been a day that wifey and I needed more room than our modest boot.
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Guess you don't play golf? Try fitting a full bag in a Miata. The Corvette can swallow up two cart bags and lots of room for more.
 
A car like the Miata needs to look good. I loved the first original Miata. All the rest including this latest one just suck in that department.

The Mini is another car that has only looked worse over time.
 
The miata hype crowd is worse than the ninja 250 cheerleaders here.
 
TheRobSJ said:
Guess you don't play golf? Try fitting a full bag in a Miata. The Corvette can swallow up two cart bags and lots of room for more.
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Owning a Miata and being a golfer?! Talk about stereotype confirmation. :laughing
 
I'm somewhat cross shopping a Miata / Vette / 987S. I want something fun to drive with a rag top that will be competitive in its respective SCCA classes too. :thumbup
 
Reli said:
And how often do you go to the track, where you can pull maximum G?

Face it, in urban environments, the Miata is just more fun to flick around than anything else. It's so small that there's ROOM to do that. That's not true with a bigger, heavier car. You're not going to flick the wheel of a Mustang in a residential cul-de-sac, the way you could with a Miata.

The bigger & heavier the car, the more you HAVE to take it to the track, to have any fun with its "handling".
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There are any number of small sports cars that will handle every bit as good as a Miata anywhere but in a Mickey D's parking lot. But since when were we discussing 'urban' environments in this thread? Is that how/where one judges whether a car is 'as a pure driving proposition, superior to nearly every other sporting vehicle on the market'? You think they were writing about tooling around the streets of San Francisco?

I think you're confusing the words compact car with the words sports car.
 

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Kestrel said:
Such as? What else out there is new, 2200lbs, RWD, and $25k?
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2332 you mean. And yes nothing equals that. But if you can live with a few hundred pounds more, the Scion/Subaru twins meet the price and FR layout. The extra 45hp they have over the new MX-5 sort of offsets the extra weight.
 
Marcoose said:
It. Is. Not. A. Roadster.

:rolleyes
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Meh. I like driving the lady's Mini with the top down every once in a great while (mainly because the blind spots are massive with the soft top up), but usually I don't even like sunroofs on cars.

Njoy the cowl shake. Haven't driven a roadster yet (even one designed as one) that doesn't feel like lots of stuff is flexing around when driving over a railroad crossing.
 
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