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BMW S1000RR: Weekend of Riding "In The Real World" - Impressions?

Gary J

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Had the opportunity to spend the entire weekend riding the local backroads in the Santa Cruz mountains on a brand-new BMW S1000RR (putting in break-in mileage for a friend). The riding was done in real world conditions that included 500+ miles of sticky/dry asphalt, and 120 miles in the pouring rain .... on slick, traction-limited pavement.

There’s been lots of racetrack test reports and articles on the new BMW, but as that this riding was done in real world conditions (rain and shine) on local roads familiar to many folks here on the forum, I figured I’d jot down the highlights of my “Hit” and “Nit” impressions of the bike, for anyone that may have an interest.

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HITS:

Dynamic Traction Control (DTC):
Absolute science in motion. The efficiency in maintaining tire grip under all conditions (dry or wet) is so good, that it’s akin to having Valentino Rossi riding along as an invisible co-pilot controlling the throttle. “Pin it to the stops and trust the DTC to do its job” is truly an option when riding this bike.

There’s no question that DTC reduces the required skill level of the rider to get the bike down the road or track quickly. Some may consider it a bit like cheating, but it is the technology of the future and it does do what it’s intended to do; and extremely well.

Brakes:
Very powerful, very linear, thanks to the Brembo calipers and solid brake lines. Total 1-Finger braking up front. There was zero rider sensory intrusion (pulsating) from the bike’s ABS system at any time while riding the bike, if it did in fact ever kick in. ABS was very transparent; even when riding in the rain. No tire slippage under braking was ever seen.

Trail braking deep into turns is possible thanks to the excellent chassis geometry that results in a total absence of the bike wanting to stand-up.

Power:
Due to riding the bike exclusively within the 600 mile break-in period, where a mandatory 9K RPM rev-limit is in place, evaluating the true power potential was not possible. The primary take-away from that window of riding was as follows.

The engine is a bit of hybrid in having a solid dose of the expected hard midrange pull from a liter bike, but in a package that churns out a spin-up of power increase in the manner of a high-revving 600. Definitely not an engine that encourages short-shifting to tap into the potential of the bike.

Chassis:
The stability of this bike is nothing short of amazing! Even at speed over the bumpiest sections of beat-up backroad, the bike tracked straight and true. The S1000RR never showed the slightest sign of a twitch at the front wheel.

The bike is fitted with a steering damper (non-adjustable), but I honestly never felt it needing to go into action. The bike steers quite quickly (though not 600 flickable), but retains rock solid stability. BMW really got the rake/trail numbers right in this package!

Suspension:
The bike’s target focus as a track/race bike is quite apparent in the character of the suspension components. The smoother the road, and the higher the speeds, the better both ends of the bike performed. On rough, bumpy pavement that is common on public roads, the suspension gets the job done, but not without some penalty in the workout fed back into the rider.

Lots of adjustability. High and low-speed adjustment on the shock’s compression damping, and a flip-able eccentric insert in the top mounting point of the shock (for a real “ride height” change) reflect the bike’s track/race character.

Instrumentation:
The gauge cluster is nicely positioned for unobstructed viewing. The large, easy-to-read analog tachometer, digital speedometer and gear selection indicator, combine to do a great job of relaying important info to the rider. The on-board lap timer is another bell-n-whistle that some trackday riders may find of value.

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NITS:

Shifting:
Using the quick-shifter, the bike’s shifting is pure magic. However the mechanics that provide that high-tech function seem to negatively impact the “feel” and consistency when making conventional clutched shifts.

The shift lever has a very short throw, and a vagueness that lacks the positive sense of “click” that is felt on most bikes, when pulling up to engage the next gear. As a result, I elected to use the quick-shifter almost exclusively; even when riding in city traffic.

Clutch:
Pulling in the lever sometimes produced a clunky, two-step sensation. The first ½ pull distance produces an initial slack feeling, followed by a second phase of pull that lead to full release. I assume the nature of the bike’s slipper clutch mechanism is at the heart of this behavior, as my ZX-10R (which also had a slipper clutch) exhibited a similar clutch release action.

Suspension:
The factory settings proved to not be ideal for performance riding, with a 170 lb. pilot.

The settings below improved things a lot (for the street), but was surprised to find that the zip-tie travel indicator on the front fork showed the bike used almost all its travel (only about 6 mm remaining) after a day of backroad riding,

Front Forks:
- Rebound: Too fast (ended up setting it a MAX = 10)
- Compression: Harsh on backroad bumps (ended up backing out to 2)
- Preload: Came from dealer at near MINIMUM, with 3 ½ lines showing. (ended up all the way out – 4 lines showing)

Shock:
- Rebound: Way too fast (ended up setting it at 7)
- Compression: Harsh on backroad bumps (ended up backing out to 2 on “High-Speed” adjuster, “Low-Speed” left at stock)
- Preload: Too much sag (ended up adding 2 turns clockwise – more preload)

Comfort (Street Riding):
The riding position is very much racetrack-inspired. The combination of a seat that has a definite forward slope, and the low positioning of the clip-ons, makes it difficult to prevent putting a lot of weight on your wrists when riding at a real world pace on the street. This is especially challenging when riding downhill, where gravity and regular braking compounds the forward weight shift problem. Tightly squeezing your knees into the gas tank helps, but can’t totally eliminate the effects felt after a full day (400 miles+ in this case) in the saddle.

Tight/Low-Speed Turning:
Getting the bike to hold the desired line when trying to navigate VERY tight (15 MPH) decreasing-radius, right-hand turns at low speeds, took some serious focus. The position of the clip-ons and steering stops brings the grips (and your hands) very close to the main frame when at full turn. The bike also has a long wheelbase feel to it when trying to perform tight turns.

Owners Manual:
This document could use some serious help in the content, editing, and/or translation. Trying to reap useful benefit from the “Suspension” setup section was where I came to that realization. 15 minutes and I could seriously improve on the value/accuracy of the info in that section!

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Overall Impression?

This bike is truly a "Time Machine", and worth the price of admission, for those that can afford it.

Why? Because it gives a rider a chance to experience the future of motorcycling (full electronics) in its purest form ....... TODAY! :thumbup :ride
 
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That's a very informative, impressions report.

I'd sure like to see a report on the New Ducati 1200S Multistrada in the same conditions, and impressions of comparison.

Both being broken in, so they didn't have that restriction.

The management systems And Riders position, getting a "real world" comparison.

And not that it would ever happen, but...it would be fantastic to have street handle bars on a S1000RR, being compared to a 1200Multi.
 
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Great write up Gary J!

Why didn't your buddy want to do the break in?
 
I always enjoy reading your write-ups, Gary :)

And after attending a few of your suspension seminars, I can happily understand what you are talking about in your suspension blurb! Thanks again :thumbup
 
helps push me toward buying one!
 
I see all these people putting the stomp pads on their tank, but it always seems like its in the wrong place to me. What you really need is a grippier seat.

Stomp grip and tech-spec pads help you anchor your legs to the tank under braking and acceleration. Your legs have much better leverage than your ass; no amount of seat grip would replace the need for tank pads.

As for building up the seat... It really is a good way of increasing leg room without reducing cornering clearance. So long as you can still comfortably control the bike at a stand-still, I recommend it over lowering the pegs.
 
Why didn't your buddy want to do the break in?
He consciously elected to move all his riding to the track (where he'll be using the BMW) a number of years ago, and as such is not comfortable with all the variables out on the public roads these days.

It was a nice "win-win" project for getting his bike ready for the 600 mile uncorking of the rev-limiter (before his trackday this Thursday) without him having to stress through those street concerns .... while giving me a chance to experience the S1000RR up-close-and personal. :thumbup
 
The way I look at it is how often do you see tank pads on MotoGP bikes? Pretty close to never. But what kind of seats to they have? Grippy foam seats.

I've found a few examples with foam pads... But what I noticed was that by in large, most motogp fuel tanks were contoured so that the natural shape of the tank permitted the rider to lock on with their legs. Street bikes rarely have tanks shaped that way, and are almost never customized for their rider.
 
I've found a few examples with foam pads... But what I noticed was that by in large, most motogp fuel tanks were contoured so that the natural shape of the tank permitted the rider to lock on with their legs. Street bikes rarely have tanks shaped that way, and are almost never customized for their rider.
The surface finish on the S1000RR's plastic tank cover (where a real gas tank would normally reside) is a non-shiny texture. This surface seemed to provide a higher level of grip when trying to use my inner legs to brace against during braking .... or downhill cornering.

Not as potentially over-sticky as Stomp-Grip and the other aftermarket products, but it was a noticeable factor that I felt while riding the bike this last weekend.
 
Great write up Gary.
I know it may sound a bit mundane, but I ride my bikes on the street most of the time:

a) How are the mirrors mounted and do they buzz?
b) Did you get to ride it at night? if so, how are the stock headlights?
c) Are the stock rearsets adjustable?
 
Good real world questions Underdog.

There are a lot of often unmentioned little aspects about a new motorcylcle that can make a difference in overall riding enjoyment, when a bike is used under all the possible conditions for the street.

a) How are the mirrors mounted and do they buzz?
For a serious sportbike, I actually found that the mirrors could be positioned to provide a clear view around my torso, giving a decent level of visibility of what was going on behind me.

The overall surface area of the mirror glass is a bit smaller than some more general style bikes I've owned and ridden, but is enough to provide a very acceptable combined field of view.

As for vibration, that was not a factor. Visibility in the mirrors was crystal clear. The big-bore inline-four engine is smooth as glass, and as such didn't generate any vibrations into the bodywork or mirrors ...... at any speed. Despite riding some bucking-bronco rough goat trail roads (like the end of Swanton Road, off Hwy 1),the mirrors held solid and never required any realignment.

b) Did you get to ride it at night? if so, how are the stock headlights?
The left and right headlights are asymetrical in size and shape. Gets some odd looks and comments from folks that first see the bike, but they must be designed that way by the engineers for a purpose; as the headlight provides a good level of dispersion of lighting while in use.

c) Are the stock rearsets adjustable?
For my just under 6' height, and 34" inseam, the seat-to-peg distance seemed near ideal for what is a fair balance between serious corner-carving and general overall riding.

Despite putting in over 400 miles of serious riding on the backroads on Saturday alone (with minimal stops), I never experienced any leg cramping. If the peg position is adjustable, I would not have changed it for my personal dimensions.

Unfortunately I can't give you a "yay" or "nay" on whether it is adjustable, as I neglected to really look at that item on the bike during my short visit with it this weekend. Sorry.

One other item of note I hadn't mentioned, is the seat-to-ground dimension.

I did find that the seat height is a bit on the high side on the S1000RR, as compared to most sportbikes I've owned or ridden. This was most noticeable when paddling to navigate the bike out of parking spots, where not being solidly flat-footed made me pay extra attention in not wanting to do a major no-no of dropping the new bike at 0-MPH. :laughing

It should be noted that I had increased the shock preload a couple turns (to set the rider sag), and hence the bike was probably about 1/2 higher than stock at the seat.
 
Potentially my next sportbike- but, in terms of mechanical reliability, waiting to see if there's any possible quirks to be ironed out with this model. A first year Beemer's bound to have some kinks that may show up after a couple thousand miles. I'm going to wait & watch before jumping in. Sounds like an amazing bike so far though.
 
Good real world questions Underdog.

There are a lot of often unmentioned little aspects about a new motorcylcle that can make a difference in overall riding enjoyment, when a bike is used under all the possible conditions for the street.


For a serious sportbike, I actually found that the mirrors could be positioned to provide a clear view around my torso, giving a decent level of visibility of what was going on behind me.

The overall surface area of the mirror glass is a bit smaller than some more general style bikes I've owned and ridden, but is enough to provide a very acceptable combined field of view.

As for vibration, that was not a factor. Visibility in the mirrors was crystal clear. The big-bore inline-four engine is smooth as glass, and as such didn't generate any vibrations into the bodywork or mirrors ...... at any speed. Despite riding some bucking-bronco rough goat trail roads (like the end of Swanton Road, off Hwy 1),the mirrors held solid and never required any realignment.


The left and right headlights are asymetrical in size and shape. Gets some odd looks and comments from folks that first see the bike, but they must be designed that way by the engineers for a purpose; as the headlight provides a good level of dispersion of lighting while in use.


For my just under 6' height, and 34" inseam, the seat-to-peg distance seemed near ideal for what is a fair balance between serious corner-carving and general overall riding.

Despite putting in over 400 miles of serious riding on the backroads on Saturday alone (with minimal stops), I never experienced any leg cramping. If the peg position is adjustable, I would not have changed it for my personal dimensions.

Unfortunately I can't give you a "yay" or "nay" on whether it is adjustable, as I neglected to really look at that item on the bike during my short visit with it this weekend. Sorry.

One other item of note I hadn't mentioned, is the seat-to-ground dimension.

I did find that the seat height is a bit on the high side on the S1000RR, as compared to most sportbikes I've owned or ridden. This was most noticeable when paddling to navigate the bike out of parking spots, where not being solidly flat-footed made me pay extra attention in not wanting to do a major no-no of dropping the new bike at 0-MPH. :laughing

It should be noted that I had increased the shock preload a couple turns (to set the rider sag), and hence the bike was probably about 1/2 higher than stock at the seat.

Thanks Gary :thumbup
 
great write up Gary.

May I ask:

How was the fuel economy?
In the real world would you choose this over a ninjette 250 strictly based on the fun factor.
Do you think that having the electronic traction/braking management would lead to a rider developing bad habits on the street.

when are they coming out with a streetfighter version?
 
What about the wheelie control? I've seen vids where it looks like the wheel comes up about 4-6 inches and then drops back down. I think it would be a much cooler bike if the wheelie control was smart enough to let the wheel come up just a few inches and then you could park it up there. Little wheelies are cool.
Put it in "Slick" mode.

*edit* "Slick - In slick mode with less than 20 degrees of lean, the bike can wheelie for 5 seconds to maximize acceleration." Oh, well ...
 
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I like your "real world" bike reviews like the Kawi 250 you did a while back. I've been reading so many track reviews for this bike and everyone loves it.

Looking forward to a follow up - after break in :teeth
 
:thumbup

Now if we could get this sort of feedback for every new bike. ;o)
 
I like your "real world" bike reviews like the Kawi 250 you did a while back. I've been reading so many track reviews for this bike and everyone loves it.

Looking forward to a follow up - after break in :teeth

I think this was just one time deal to get it up to 600 miles so rev limiter could be removed.
 
How was the fuel economy?
As for MPG, it should be noted that the 650+ total miles ridden were done almost exclusively on twisty backroads, and at a "spirited" pace.

Mileage during the five total gas-ups that I did while riding the bike ran somewhere between 34-37 MPG. With the 4.6 gallon tank, around 140-150 miles would have been about the limit before finding a station for a fill-up.

In the real world would you choose this over a ninjette 250 strictly based on the fun factor?
Personally, due to the need for a self-imposed "governor" to keep it real at a level acceptable for recreational backroad public road riding, a 180HP S1000RR just wouldn't fit the mold ...... as the 28HP Ninja 250s have done so well for the last 8 years.

For others with a level of restraint much better than my admitted shortcoming, the BMW would likely fit just fine. :)

Do you think that having the electronic traction/braking management would lead to a rider developing bad habits on the street?

Each rider's habits and behavior on the street is always under their own control. The bike doesn't make anything happen. I do believe that it's possible that an aggressive rider who spends a lot of time on bike with the sophisticated level of DTC that the BMW provides, may potentially become a bit rusty in their ability to manage throttle control ...... for maintaining optimum traction.

How it would effect each rider, is on a case-by-case basis.

Personally, I didn't lose the skills for manual traction control, as a result of my weekend on the S1000RR. Just have to recognize what the recipe is for operating the bike I'm riding at the time.

when are they coming out with a streetfighter version?
Don't work for BMW, or have any close ties, so unfortunately someone else would have to provide insight on that Tuxumino.

However based on the strongly forward-weight position of the bars on the current S1000RR, I did have thoughts while riding it of how cool it'd be to have a bike with the same performance and features (DTC, ABS, etc), but with more upright handlebars and a more relaxed riding position. :thumbup
 
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