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Boxing. Why? 2 people beating the crap out of each other. Consequences ensue.

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I have never understood the allure. It is barbaric IMHO. Of course, the big draw for some is $$ or sadly, witnessing bloodletting. Go spend a summer working in a slaughterhouse for fuck's sake. Let us gamble on people's lives or health for sport. For others, maybe it is the "satisfaction" of watching two humans beating each other to a pulp. Hopefully of course, no quick TKO's. Let them suffer later in life. To me it is akin to cockfighting.

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I get your point but physical contests between humans goes back to the dawn of time and isn’t going away.
Its appeal is primal and actually involves a lot - conditioning, strategy, timing, footwork, and heart.
It’s produced larger than life celebrities like Ali, Tyson and Mayweather.
Then there’s the drama and hype leading up to a big fight captures the public’s attention with millions of dollars at stake.

If we start going down this path then what about MMA, hockey, football, rugby?

There’s something about watching people bash each other that is sick but alluring at the same time.
 
Rugby is the best sport! I played and then refereed way back in the days. So much smashing!
 
maybe not a goal of the game but certainly an outcome.
They don’t hit below the belt, but the head is the most effective target. Perhaps that is a statement of priorities.
 
Me too.
When the goal of a sport is to give the competitor a cerebral hemorrhage, it trips me out.
Not cool.
False premise there, amigo.
That is a ridiculously sensationalized idea of what the goal is

The goal of racing is to die because that happens sometimes and it makes me sick that some people enjoy watching it waiting for the inevitable crash
 
+1 to mean dad. Way off base.

The goal is to beat your opponent.

I was way into martial arts as a teen and loved full contact sparing and matches. I never wanted to brain bleed my opponent, but I sure the hell wanted to knock him on his ass.

Weird too, that when challenged by a young black belt as a senior I felt little remorse when I broke his arm. He asked for it.

I have enjoyed a lot of good boxers over the years... PacMan, Sugar Ray, the Greatest etc.
Not much into it any more. I think MMA has stepped up the aggression and violence even to a higher level.
 
It's hard to explain to somebody who only views it as violence when to others it is competition and sport.

How can you practice the sport you've been training for without there being some skin in the game? Nobody steps into a boxing match, karate sparring or MMA ring with the intent to get beat up or killed. We all step in with the intent to win, to confirm that we can beat the other guy in the ring. It's like riding a motorcycle fast in the twisties, with bodily harm on the line, we're more awake, more alive, quicker, stronger, firing on all cylinders. It's hard to replicate the level of feeling alive as when your body and possibly life are on the line.
 
I certainly don't have the drive to participate, not really much of a spectator either, but, write large, boxing game of skill, not simply brute force. Strength and endurance are both critical to success, but being strong and stocky will not alone take you very high in the sport.

I don't care much for modern MMA. I did watch the early UFC bouts, when it was really more just an exposition, not quite an actual sport with rules towards balance.

I remember the first ever UFC bout, when they were trying to find "the best martial art" and they put a Sumo Wrestler against a kick boxer. The wrestler got kicked in the mouth and you could see his tooth fly across the ring. The Sumo wrestler was Taylor Wily, who, later, played Kamekona on Hawaii Five-O.

I will never forget the bout between Dan Severn and Joyce Gracie, in the third event that UFC promoted. Gracie, a jui-jitsu master (and winner of the two previous UFC events), Severn a Greco Roman wrestler. My word, was he big. A monster.

Severn just clobbered the first 2 rounds of the match. They didn't last 30 seconds. Just bonked them and they just dropped. Meanwhile, Gracies two bouts took much longer, and he was clearly winded when he had to face Severn. It seemed that Severn was going to beat Gracie as well, but that's not what happened. Gracie wrapped around him like a python, and after what seemed like 15 minutes, he finally got Severn in a lock that made him tap out. The key point here, though, was that Severn was on his feet, hunched over with Gracie hanging off of him, with his head resting against the fence of the ring. Gracie managed to get an arm. It was a crazy match.

Its also when they changed the rules to not let folks writhe on the ground for 15m. After that, they forced them to separate, and this style favored strikers over grapplers, and Gracie stopped participating.

But it was an interesting to watch evolve in those early days.
 
I guess I have a different view of violence than others.
Opinions, eh?
Yup. Plenty of folks share it I am sure :thumbup

We all got influenced by something as a kiddo. The male human is typically quite aggressive when a young man and beyond. Super interesting to me. Modern times are seeing more and more women step into that mold and doing crazy shit too. Love that.
 
There's something about people fighting for money in front of a crowd that rubs me wrong, like poor everyday romans all dumb and bloodthirsty screaming for violence when really they're just pawns playing their role being distracted from being taken as orchestrated by some wealthy group laughing hysterically.
 
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