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CA Smog Law "take action"

xgambit said:
i say we propose a no-blipping-at-stoplights bill - if you are at a stoplight and you get caught blipping your throttle (and you are not doing a burnout at the time) then the fine is you get ass raped on the spot by a chimp. cops would have to start carrying chimps around with them in their squad cars of course. also volunteers could dress as chimps and play the role of the chimps if it would help save taxpayer money.

this will lead to lower incidences of annoying and obtrusive throttle blipping around our neighborhoods and maybe some funny videos of the said chimps and riders on youtube
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:rofl:rofl:rofl
 
jbt56 said:
Not again! There is a very recent thread about this-z3n, you were involved in it! This bill.....
Oh, forget it. Y'all just get your shorts in a knot again over nothing. Maybe someone will actually read the bill this time.
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here we go again. lets see if we can bash it into submission.
 
I have an aftermarket 2 into 1 MOTAD exhaust system on my 1983 CX650E, which allows better airflow, has the exact same decibel rating as a stock exhaust system, and it dropped 16 lbs from the bike's original weight.

It does NOT have to be louder to be better.

Buncha whining crybabies.
 
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yeah this has been :deadhorse
before but the bigger picture is regulation of bikes in general and if this passes how it could lead to more regulation..

like why not require all riders to wear neon green vests
makes sense right .. but who wants to be forced to wear it.

we gotta be careful or watch out for these types of things that can have a snowball affect
 
acidjzaz said:
we gotta be careful or watch out for these types of things that can have a snowball affect
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope

We can regulate ourselves or get regulated by the general population. Your choice.

Tim, how do you feel about people attempting to take away your aftermarket exhaust because of the irresponsibilities of others? Welcome to the club.
 
Tim-That CX Guy said:
I have an aftermarket 2 into 1 MOTAD exhaust system on my 1983 CX650E, which allows better airflow, has the exact same decibel rating as a stock exhaust system, and it dropped 16 lbs from the bike's original weight.

It does NOT have to be louder to be better.

Buncha whining crybabies.
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But you still have an aftermarket exhaust, which wouldn't be legal.










The OEM's would make an absolute killing on this as you'd be forced to buy their one and only exhaust at whatever price they chose. Car drivers aren't forced to do this. They can put any muffler they want on their rides, as long as it's not too loud. We should be allowed to do the same.
 
Tim-That CX Guy said:
I have an aftermarket 2 into 1 MOTAD exhaust system on my 1983 CX650E, which allows better airflow, has the exact same decibel rating as a stock exhaust system, and it dropped 16 lbs from the bike's original weight.

It does NOT have to be louder to be better.

Buncha whining crybabies.
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:wtf

I missed something somewhere. Who are whining crybabies?
 
Z3n said:
Maybe this will finally stop the fucking harley riders.
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Yep. I'm writing my senator and other lier and telling them to vote for it. :thumbup

I am so uncool.
 
Most of y'all who are of the ' what are you worried about and I support this bent' are in for an exceedingly large surprise down the road , momentarily laying aside the basic fact that this law is much more restrictive than similar laws applying to four-wheeled vehicles it also opens the door for a German style system in which you will not be allowed to change *anything* on your scoot unless the piece you're changing to has prior governmental approval , if you don't believe that this potential exists than I suggest that you take a gander at what a rider in Germany goes through simply to change his *handlebars*.

In addition it would inevitably add an entire 'nuther layer of bureaucracy and bureaucrats which will equally inevitably have to be supported by the tax system. Want to pay yet more in taxes do you?

And there *will* be an actual smog law with required testing not far behind it , mark my words , with all the corollary costs to the consumer associated with the current system for four wheelers.

The legislative juggernaut continues to bear down on our sport/passion.
 
Do you honestly think that an officer is going to pull you over if you have an aftermarket exhaust that has absolutely no discernible difference in volume than an OEM exhaust system?

I will NEVER get a fix it ticket involved because from the aural standpoint, there is no difference, it's a nice, quiet high performance system.

Win.
 
This is all that comes up when I clicked on it:

Senate Bill 435 (motorcycle exhaust) has been amended again and is now scheduled for a hearing on June 28th.
New version would require stock exhaust/EPA stamp for all bikes built on or after January 1, 2000
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Is there another link?
Who is the senator for the Alameda/Contra Costa County area?
 
Tim-That CX Guy said:
Do you honestly think that an officer is going to pull you over if you have an aftermarket exhaust that has absolutely no discernible difference in volume than an OEM exhaust system?

I will NEVER get a fix it ticket involved because from the aural standpoint, there is no difference, it's a nice, quiet high performance system.

Win.
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I have a Yosh slip on that supposedly is 2~3 db louder than the stock system, but still legal. When the officer pulled me over for the missing reflector on the rear fender, he sure commented on the aftermarket 'system'. If that law were in place I probably would have gotten a ticket.

I'm also one of those who has a hidden EPA stamp on the stock can, so I'd be really pissed off if I went to the trouble to put the stock muffler on, and still got a ticket. :mad
 
GrizFyrFyter said:
i dont knwo what your talking about or how this is "over nothing". please, do tell...:thumbup
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Again (or still), this bill ONLY makes the penalties for REMOVING EMISSIONS EQUIPMENT STIFFER. That's IT! I'm too tired to look up the other thread just now (been up since 3:45 this AM), but the ENTIRE bill is two freakin' paragraphs, and there's NOTHING about mufflers AT ALL in it!!
 
Bluenote said:
Most of y'all who are of the ' what are you worried about and I support this bent' are in for an exceedingly large surprise down the road , momentarily laying aside the basic fact that this law is much more restrictive than similar laws applying to four-wheeled vehicles it also opens the door for a German style system in which you will not be allowed to change *anything* on your scoot unless the piece you're changing to has prior governmental approval , if you don't believe that this potential exists than I suggest that you take a gander at what a rider in Germany goes through simply to change his *handlebars*.
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And there it is. Don't get me wrong, I have no love for over-the-top straight pipes or megaphones on the streets. However, how there can be one law for bikes, and another for cars escapes me.

But then again, maybe that was the plan all along. Come in swinging wildly with crazy legislation that nobody will agree with, then while everyone is up in arms over it, gently suggest the more palatable Smog Check law to put is in compliance with auto legislation.
 
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