Greggar... why do you like Yakima over Thule? (I started buying Yakima 'cause I liked the looks of the designs better.)
exactly that. thule products are just generally clumsy in design. i don't think yakima is perfect, but i do think it's far superior to thule. mainly, square (thule) bars suck because it's harder to get everything lined up and anchored properly. round bars (yakima) are much more compliant, in my experience. also, thule's closure on the bars suck and you can eaily warp the roof of your car with them. in short, it's an all-or-nothing clamp that snaps into place. and it's not difficult at all to put too much force into it, damaging the roof. yakima's tighten like a bolt and nut instead of snapping into place. much safer and easier to install.
one thing worth noting is that most, if not all, accessories will work on either rack. so, you can put yakima bars on your car, but if you really need that one particular tandem hauler (or whatever) that only thule makes, you can still use it. only drawback is that you'll have a different key.
also, that's what i was talking about with the locks. the way it works is that they're sold w/o any locking mechanism to keep the initial cost down. then you buy lock cores to add to the bars (one for each foot) and each accessory.
so, let's say you buy the system and a couple bike mounts, one each for you and your girl. that will need six lock cores. so you buy the package with six cores. then you marry that girl and have a kid that also rides bikes. or you take up snowboarding and need a box for your boards. who knows.
now you need another lock core. problem is, you can't buy lock cores to match the keys you already have. now you have another key that looks exactly like the key you already have, but only works on some of the locks.
on top of that, this stuff is constantly outside and it corrodes. doesn't matter how tough they make it, it's still stiff and sticky and doesn't work easily. they work, but it takes some elbow grease. as a result, trying to figure out which key works where gets annoying really quick. is it the wrong key? or does the lock need lubricant? this especially sucks when you're loading the rack in cold and snow or are being eaten alive by bugs.
so, what do you do? you do what every single rack user does. you put the two new lock cores where you don't need to lock and unlock with any frequency: in two of the feet. so all the accessories have the same key, and now two of the feet don't match.
a couple years later, you then attempt to sell or trade in the car and can't find the one weirdo yakima key that unlocks one of the bars.
and now half of the rack is stuck to the car.
please, for the love of everything holy, buy extra lock cores. please just buy the twelve pack, no matter how many extra cores you wind up with.
(can you sense my baggage here?

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