scottiedawg66
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they were not registered in Ca. because the race teams were not based in Ca. In every other state this seems to be a non issue...big surprise.
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CHP showing up to trackdays and checking bikes for theft
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Archimedes
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But therein lies the flaw in your logic. Your bike sitting in a parking lot open to the public (such as at a track day) is NOT your 'personal space' as defined by the law. A cop, and anyone else who feels like it, has the right to look at it. They can't search inside it without probable cause, but they can look over anything that is in sight, including coming right up to it, and if you impede them, you can be arrested for obstructing an officer discharging his duty. The area around your bike is not your personal space and you have no more right to it than the cop does.
Archimedes
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Well the bullshit nit picky tickets are one thing (though I wouldn't call the safety chain one bullshit), but nailing people for not having registrations paid, insurance, etc. is fine by me. Why should some people pay and others not?
trailjammer
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I'm not disagreeing about the safety clips being the wrong kind. My safety chains came on my trailer (bought trailer new), and I didn't know you needed the 'closing saftey clip type'. Now i know. A warning would've been nice instead of $25. But now I know. My point being, if they're there for 'stolen bikes' then they shouldn't be hassling you for everything else. Otherwise, to me it just looks like a 'sting' for whatever they can get you for which doesn't make for a nice day.
2strokeYardSale
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VC 2805 doesn't apply to a track bikes (not a "vehicle of a type required to be registered under this code") at a race track ("on a highway or in any public garage, repair shop, terminal, parking lot, new or used car lot, automobile dismantler's lot, vehicle shredding facility, vehicle leasing or rental lot, vehicle equipment rental yard, vehicle salvage pool, or other similar establishment, or any agricultural or construction work location where work is being actively performed"). So that wouldn't be an arrest, it would be a violation of PC 207(a).
To protect your property in plain view, apply opaque tape. It might be a good place to record your suspension settings, or write a friendly message the CHP
. Just like a rifle's serial number should be covered by a dope chart. Temporarily covering of the number is not obliterating or altering the VIN.
Albal0ney
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wtf lol! That same exact scam happened to my friend in Berkeley a few years ago too! He bought a new tv still in shrink wrap, opened it up and it was an greasy oven door!
He was pissed. This was probably the same guy
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wtf lol! That same exact scam happened to my friend in Berkeley a few years ago too! He bought a new tv still in shrink wrap, opened it up and it was an greasy oven door!
How were the graphics?
DUI checkpoints run just the same. They bust like 2 duis and write about 100 tickets for other bullshit. Face it, cops don't like the constitution and the spirit of it. It's the biggest obstacle in their way.
"If you aren't doing anything wrong then what are you complaining about?"
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If we can reduce MC theft, all of our insurance rates will go down.
I like the idea of a few LEO visits to different MC events of all kinds.
It will only take a few visits.
Once the word is out, people looking to buy bikes will insist on solid paperwork and the demand that rewards thief's will be reduced. Even the stolen bike market is subject to supply and demand pressures.
There is no way trackday providers will be checking papers. Leave policing to the police.
I like the idea of a few LEO visits to different MC events of all kinds.
It will only take a few visits.Once the word is out, people looking to buy bikes will insist on solid paperwork and the demand that rewards thief's will be reduced. Even the stolen bike market is subject to supply and demand pressures.
There is no way trackday providers will be checking papers. Leave policing to the police.
All the cops?? You know ALL the cops huh..... wow.
As for DUI checkpoints, the last two that I worked, we arrested 30 DUI drivers, wrote 4 citations for suspended drivers, and towed at least 34 vehicles.
Don't talk about things you don't know anything about.
Well, I was there, for my two checkpoints....
800 cars, arrested 30 DUI drivers, wrote 4 citations for suspended drivers, and towed at least 34 vehicles.
Care to counter?
MellowYellow
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http://www.ocduiblog.com/2010/03/costa-mesa-dui-checkpoint-statistics/
this is the more typical items I read about when DUI checkpoints are done.
Not any officers fault that he is assigned. And it is also not an officers fault that generally they are not cost effective.But that I guess is another thread.
And how do you tow AT LEAST 34 vehicles when you put out a total of 34 citations/arrests? your maximum tows should be 34 should it not?
this is the more typical items I read about when DUI checkpoints are done.
Not any officers fault that he is assigned. And it is also not an officers fault that generally they are not cost effective.But that I guess is another thread.
And how do you tow AT LEAST 34 vehicles when you put out a total of 34 citations/arrests? your maximum tows should be 34 should it not?
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There was one, maybe two minors who were cited but not arrest, so (I think) those cars were towed, but I don't remember exactly. The checkpoints were in May, so I don't remember the exact number of tows.
MellowYellow
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I honestly would not want to be bothered by any law enforcement at a freaking trackday.
Between sessions I'm usually drinking gatorades, eating granola bars, or resting my eyes.
I would be very annoyed if an officer came up to me while I'm resting asking to check my papers or my bike.
Between sessions I'm usually drinking gatorades, eating granola bars, or resting my eyes.
I would be very annoyed if an officer came up to me while I'm resting asking to check my papers or my bike.
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Guess you didn't read the whole thread.
They were looking for altered VINs not checking papers.
James
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If we can reduce MC theft, all of our insurance rates will go down.
I like the idea of a few LEO visits to different MC events of all kinds.
Once the word is out, people looking to buy bikes will insist on solid paperwork and the demand that rewards thief's will be reduced. Even the stolen bike market is subject to supply and demand pressures.
There is no way trackday providers will be checking papers. Leave policing to the police.
Yeah.... how is that working for taxes? "Temporary tax increase"
or how about BART Fares?
oh, how about bridge tolls?
another, cell phone bills?
medical rates?
Once an entity gets used to dollars coming in, they are not going to willingly slow the flow of cash. And cops finding stolen bikes won't stop insurance payments.
A more effective idea would be for anybody that owns anything they want to keep, to take measures and shoot any would-be burglar. Word will get around a lot faster.
*Edit - Norcal Factory, I did not mean to pick on your post. This is intended for anyone that thinks cops will have an affect on our insurance rates.
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