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Does this count as a freeway ride?

Hi Aruna,

As one hot brit chick (self designated, but what of it) to another, I say plenty of time to get into third gear. Concentrate on your slow speed maneuvers for Sunday and turning your head to look where you want to get to in turns. You'll need to fight the temptation to not look at the road ahead of you. When you turn your head, the bike follows. I was so totally trying to turn my head and pretend I wasn't looking at the road (but I was), and pretty well balls'ed it up :laughing :facepalm. It's a key thing to learn and takes some practice. You might find you'll be starting Sunday morning off with the figure of 8 drill and then doing it inside a teeny box - fun!

Good luck for Sunday and take it slow on that fast bike!
 
I was everywhere with my permit....I used to ride at night and on the freeways...How else are you going to get practice?...Some Leo's let you slide if they catch you but why would they pull you over if you arent doing anything Illegal/wrong....Plus laws are meant to be broken...J/k
 
oh FYI they close off half of Canada road from about 10am until 3pm on sudays for cars/moto's.
HTF do I type that enyay thing so I cold type Canada correctly?
 
cañada -- just copy and paste. and according to wikipedia it's kinda cannada anyway, like ß is ss or w is vv.

anyway as noted plenty o places to go fast other than the freeway. freeways are mostly safer than normal roads, but 101 is full of extremely dangerous interchanges--you might want to avoid it for a while. (280 is far faster but also has simple interchanges).

this site is old but good for learning the rules of the road in ca: http://www.caldrive.com/
 
oh FYI they close off half of Canada road from about 10am until 3pm on sudays for cars/moto's.
HTF do I type that enyay thing so I cold type Canada correctly?

If you're running a Windows box, look in Accessories\System Tools for the Character Map applet.

According to charmap, lower case n with tilde is Alt-0241 - ñ

You have to use the number key pad and hold down the alt key.

You're welcome®
 

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Try the expressways: Central, Foothill, Lawrence, Montegue, etc. I think they're all marked 45, but when no one's watching...
 
Also, if you can shift to 3rd gear on the slower roads, then you have learned all you need to learn in shifting. There is nothing new to be learned in shifting all the way up to 6th gear.
 
F4i chick doesnt want hot brit chick competition.

um, no. I don't ride any more, I am not hot, and I am probably old enough to be this Brit chicks mother.

Never driven in England either. This just gets better and better :rolleyes
 
Never driven in England either. This just gets better and better :rolleyes

So I'm in the exact same boat as an 18 year old who has never driven or ridden. There were two of them on my course, they passed too. Everyone has to start somewhere, I started on a motorcycle and have taken the safety course even though I didn't have to.

So, OP

How'd the MSF go

It went great, thanks! Passed without any trouble. I didn't get any penalty marks on two of the exercises (u-turn and swerve), only 4 against me on the emergency stop (took a little long as I was scared of locking up), and 4 against me on the sweeping turns (I went too slowly as I was concentrating on the technique, which I was told was perfect). I intend to go to some cone days to practice, and take the advanced rider course once I have a few months under my belt.
 
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So I'm in the exact same boat as an 18 year old who has never driven or ridden. There were two of them on my course, they passed too. Everyone has to start somewhere, I started on a motorcycle and have taken the safety course even though I didn't have to.

Interesting point, and may be valid, but you came here asking fundamental questions regarding roads and road signage here in the US. Very fundamental questions. My thinking is those who were born here *might* possess that knowledge already.

But why did you say you "didn't have to take the safety course" :confused

Additionally, any 18 year olds we might get around here would be told a 600 or bigger is too big, they should start on a 250. But I digress......as we all "have to start somewhere"
 
It went great, thanks! Passed without any trouble. I didn't get any penalty marks on two of the exercises (u-turn and swerve), only 4 against me on the emergency stop (took a little long as I was scared of locking up), and 4 against me on the sweeping turns (I went too slowly as I was concentrating on the technique, which I was told was perfect). I intend to go to some cone days to practice, and take the advanced rider course once I have a few months under my belt.

Now *this* is very interesting. You didn't get dinged on the u-turn exercise. Hmmm, a maneuvre that is not ordinarily a life or death situation

You didn't get dinged on the swerve, ok, this could be a life or death situation so good on you for passing that :thumbup

But, you seem to think it is OK to get 4 negative points each for the emergency stop AND a failure to get on the gas. Out of the four moves here, these two may make the difference between life or death, yet you are reticent taking command of the two most important aspects of riding a motorcycle: gas and brakes. Having a healthy respect for both, and an ability to apply either with a commanding presence are, well, important. Performing a flawless u-turn, well not so much IMNSHO. Any thoughts on how to control a 600+ with these when you had difficulty applying either on a little 2fiddy?

A bit of advice - do not follow the random advice being posted here on what roads to ride, regardless of status (highway, freeway whateverway). There are some *very* dangerous roads here in CA, very dangerous indeed. I would recommend you solicit private advice from Connie (Gixxergirl1000) on what roads are newbie friendly. She will not steer you wrong (no pun intended). You might want to ask her when her next newbie ride is as well if you want to get a taste of the twisties :thumbup

Have fun out there, and be safe

Question - what gear will you be wearing when you are cruising the highways, freeways, frontage roads and or side streets on your bike that you are reticent in applying both gas and or brakes?
 
you came here asking fundamental questions regarding roads and road signage here in the US. Very fundamental questions. My thinking is those who were born here *might* possess that knowledge already.

I'd point out here that it was actually a Utah-born friend of mine who's been riding 14 years who suggested that freeway route thinking it wasn't technically a freeway. I was the one who said "maybe it is?" and he suggested asking you guys as it appeared to be a grey area. Looking at the initial responses on here I can see why that mistake was made.

But why did you say you "didn't have to take the safety course" :confused

Because I'm 28 and could have just done the DMV lollipop test. I didn't feel that would actually teach me a damn thing so I paid my $250 to take the safety course so I wouldn't just go out there with good intentions but no skills. :thumbup

Now *this* is very interesting. You didn't get dinged on the u-turn exercise. Hmmm, a maneuvre that is not ordinarily a life or death situation

Actually I didn't perform that nearly as well in the practice, but did well for the first time in the test. My practice emergency stops were much better, but we were told we'd drop more points if we locked the brakes, so I was more hesitant in the actual test.

You didn't get dinged on the swerve, ok, this could be a life or death situation so good on you for passing that :thumbup

Thank you! I found the swerve both easy and fun, so I'm pleased with that. :)

But, you seem to think it is OK to get 4 negative points each for the emergency stop AND a failure to get on the gas.

Not ok, no. But I know why I did and now I can work on them, hence the cone days, advanced rider course etc. It was mostly test nerves, as I performed quite differently during the exercise practice. :)

I would recommend you solicit private advice from Connie (Gixxergirl1000) on what roads are newbie friendly. She will not steer you wrong (no pun intended). You might want to ask her when her next newbie ride is as well if you want to get a taste of the twisties :thumbup

Thank you, I will do that. :)

Question - what gear will you be wearing when you are cruising the highways, freeways, frontage roads and or side streets on your bike that you are reticent in applying both gas and or brakes?

I'm not entirely sure the assumptions you made there are correct. You're assuming that under non-test conditions I'd be as hesitant as I was under test conditions when all I was trying to do there was pass the test. I did perform far better in the practice exercises so with a little practice on the 650 I'll be fine. :) You also seem to be assuming (from your tone) that I'm under geared. I have armoured pants, jacket, full-face helmet, gloves and over-the-ankle flat boots that I purchased months ago as a passenger. I actually want to get slightly better-fitting gear (the pants are a little too short in the leg, but the protective bits are protecting the right places) soon.

I really appreciate your concern, but I don't like the assumptions that a) I have no idea what I'm doing and b) I can't learn how to ride my bike safely. :|
 
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wow. you ride, you're saucy, you have an accent...any chance you make sammiches? :teeth
 
Congrats on passing MSF! :thumbup

Plus with your smarts and willingness to learn and ask questions, you're more likely to become a proficient rider in short order. For sure, attending Doc Wong's riding clinics will help you get there sooner. Still before you go, put in some good riding miles and gain an understanding of throttle control, read old Training and Crash Analysis threads and moto-specific books to learn what to do and what not to do, practice practice practice, and then come back and ask more questions.
 
Are any other men laughing inside cuz one woman is telling another woman she doesn't have the skills to ride?

Anyway Spicegirl, good on you for passing and good on you for not listening to the BS about having to start out on POS ninja 250. Gluck, its fun, I wasn't a complete retard when I started either and Im still alive.....the only thing I can't figure out is how I started before you yet your'e two years older than me.. Did you try Canada (CanYada) Rd.? Its super quiet there most of the time. You could practice all your shifting and revving and stopping without getting anyone pissed off.
If you go deep into the Woodside neighborhoods the roads are curvy and quiet also. You could practice your leaning safely but watch out for slipping on horse shit.
 
I'm not answering the OP's questions but if you take Holly over 101 and make a left on Twin Dolphin Drive to Marine Parkway, you will wind up in an area that is full of massive empty parking lots. This is the perfect setting for riding to your heart's content.
 
I have to be really careful though, I'm here on a work visa and even the most minor misdemeanours can count against me. :|

Next time, just come here illegally. The state of California will give you a Driver's License, free education, food stamps, and a brick of Government Cheese for nachos! :thumbup :laughing

Congrats on passing your MSF Practical, welcome to the club! Now, you need to get out of the hubbub of the big city life and bring that Six-fiddy down here to God's Riding Country 3 hours south on the coast!
 
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wow. you ride, you're saucy, you have an accent...any chance you make sammiches? :teeth

I do indeed! Pretty good sammiches, so I'm told. :teeth

Plus with your smarts and willingness to learn and ask questions, you're more likely to become a proficient rider in short order.... practice practice practice, and then come back and ask more questions.

Thank you! :thumbup

the only thing I can't figure out is how I started before you yet your'e two years older than me..

I never learned to drive or ride when I was in England due to lack of money and better public transport. I've been saving up for a vehicle since arriving in the USA and was only able to afford one a few months back, hence the late start!

make a left on Twin Dolphin Drive to Marine Parkway, you will wind up in an area that is full of massive empty parking lots. This is the perfect setting for riding to your heart's content.

Perfect, I live right near there! Thank you.

Next time, just come here illegally. The state of California will give you a Driver's License, free education, food stamps, and a brick of Government Cheese for nachos! :thumbup :laughing

Oh if only... illegals can't claim on the system and legals are slaves to the system... you can't bloody win! :laughing Thanks for the encouragement. :)
 
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