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madsen203 said:
I'll have to check that out. I imagine if it does get it the shake won't show until later in ownership. It seemed that problem was in earlier models or folks who wanted to nitpick over minor natural imperfections.

I scored the truck for 29% off which is about right IMHO. If I turn around and trade it in, I'll break even and lose nothing in depreciation driving off the lot. I couldn't be happier about the deal. Literally called guy, said I'd buy it, and agreed on price immediately. The dealers locally only wanted to sell what was on their lot and unwilling to do some foot work to earn a sale.

Super stoked about it. I'll let the thread know when I get confirm it's ready to pick up.

Got it from Kendall Auto Center (similar to Dave Smith). DS didn't have what I was looking for. Laura GMC wanted $3k more than what I got this for plus the hassle of the flight, shipping, etc.
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I did a ton of research on this. The truck has been pretty much unchanged from 2014, and yes, the shake is still reported on 2018 trucks. Again, seems luck of the draw as GM has no idea what causes the problem. Some people say it's the wheels, some the drive shaft, etc.. I've seen videos of the 'bad' trucks and I don't think it's nit picking. It's really bad. I'm just saying, give it a looooong test drive on all conditions and on all types of roads. Some shakes are apparent right off the lot, and some develop later in the trucks life.

Also, you will not be able to take delivery of the truck and sell it and expect to break even. Dealers are in the market to make money, not lose money. They know how much they can get these trucks from GM now, and they know how much they are worth in the used market. I've seen some laughable used prices from dealer that matches what you can buy new. For fun, I checked what a dealer would give me for my 2018 truck with 7k miles, and it's right around 50% off of what MRSP was. That type of depreciation is pretty normal for GM trucks and I figure it's just the name of the game.
 
KBB trade in is close to what I paid for it. Even if it’s a pinch less I’m still not underwater. That will probably change for year 2 and 3 though.

I’ll have to check out the videos you’re mentioning. I rented a 2018 and it was as smooth as butter for my expectations.

The anticipation is killer though. I don’t know how people do it ordering from factory and having to wait 3 months.
 
madsen203 said:
KBB trade in is close to what I paid for it. Even if it’s a pinch less I’m still not underwater. That will probably change for year 2 and 3 though.

I’ll have to check out the videos you’re mentioning. I rented a 2018 and it was as smooth as butter for my expectations.

The anticipation is killer though. I don’t know how people do it ordering from factory and having to wait 3 months.
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Dude, kbb trade in doesn't mean jack. I'm sure you know I buy and sell a lot of cars. A dealer will not give you kbb trade in price. Put it this way, why would a dealer buy a used vehicle from someone when they could get the same new vehicle from GM for less? A new vehicle will always be underwater the day a person takes ownership, unless it's some special limited hypercar. Anyways all moot!

Look up Chevy shake and be prepared to spend a few hours watching. There's also a huge I think multi thousand page thread on gmtruck forums.

https://youtu.be/0iAJIlndxj4

https://youtu.be/ad62S9HSnk4
 
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stan23 said:
Dude, kbb trade in doesn't mean jack. I'm sure you know I buy and sell a lot of cars. A dealer will not give you kbb trade in price. Put it this way, why would a dealer buy a used vehicle from someone when they could get the same new vehicle from GM for less? A new vehicle will always be underwater the day a person takes ownership, unless it's some special limited hypercar. Anyways all moot!

Look up Chevy shake and be prepared to spend a few hours watching. There's also a huge I think multi thousand page thread on gmtruck forums.

https://youtu.be/0iAJIlndxj4

https://youtu.be/ad62S9HSnk4
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I’ve had dealers offer me KBB trade in when I’ve inquired about it in the past. This was after settling the discounted price of the vehicle I was inquiring about.

I’m seeing the shake is more prone to happen on earlier years of the current generation. There were no videos pertaining to 2018’s and only a handful of 2017’s. Most were 2014-15. I’ll have to explore the forums more but I find some of those folks are real nitpickers and are looking for something wrong. I will for sure test drive it and if prevalent I’ll return home empty handed no problem. The rental I spent 2000 miles driving (had 16k on the ODO when I got it) never showed any problem which was also a 2018. Maybe it’s a crap shoot but I’ll take my chances. The F150 is known for IWE failures but I don’t think it’s really statistically significant over the greater population of trucks sold. 3/4 million trucks sold in the US alone per year, and 1,000 complaints? Those are some small odds. Reading the comments you see there are a few people who go out of their way to say theirs is normal and no problem but that these forums only attract folks who have issues or complaints. Millions other who are having no notable issues.

I’ve just started learning that I can’t believe the internet (car/bike enthusiast) forums any longer. :-/
 
madsen203 said:
I’ve had dealers offer me KBB trade in when I’ve inquired about it in the past. This was after settling the discounted price of the vehicle I was inquiring about.

I’m seeing the shake is more prone to happen on earlier years of the current generation. There were no videos pertaining to 2018’s and only a handful of 2017’s. Most were 2014-15. I’ll have to explore the forums more but I find some of those folks are real nitpickers and are looking for something wrong. I will for sure test drive it and if prevalent I’ll return home empty handed no problem. The rental I spent 2000 miles driving (had 16k on the ODO when I got it) never showed any problem which was also a 2018. Maybe it’s a crap shoot but I’ll take my chances. The F150 is known for IWE failures but I don’t think it’s really statistically significant over the greater population of trucks sold. 3/4 million trucks sold in the US alone per year, and 1,000 complaints? Those are some small odds. Reading the comments you see there are a few people who go out of their way to say theirs is normal and no problem but that these forums only attract folks who have issues or complaints. Millions other who are having no notable issues.

I’ve just started learning that I can’t believe the internet (car/bike enthusiast) forums any longer. :-/
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What I find is that the general population does quite a bit of QA work for manufacturers, if we don't collectively complain about 'real' problems as a whole, then manufacturers will not be proactive in fixing said problems.

I'm sure your truck will be fine, and I know mine is as was another one I test drove.

Have a great road trip and post pics! :thumbup
 
stan23 said:
What I find is that the general population does quite a bit of QA work for manufacturers, if we don't collectively complain about 'real' problems as a whole, then manufacturers will not be proactive in fixing said problems.

I'm sure your truck will be fine, and I know mine is as was another one I test drove.

Have a great road trip and post pics! :thumbup
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I totally agree there is benefit to bringing awareness to a particular problem but I am also weary of how many complaints there are in relation to actual vehicle count on the road. There are batches in production that will may be more prone to failure but I don't think that reflects the entire product. A 0.001% failure rate is totally acceptable and that is why there is fortunately a lemon law (at least in California) and warranty.

I will be honest and say reading those forums and those complaints makes me hesitant to enter the used market and thus why I opted to buy new. I'm happy with my choice of buying new so far and look forward to breaking the truck in on the drive home.

I will definitely post pictures and a ride report of sorts. I appreciate the comments and direction some folks gave me in this thread and another thread I had about a year ago regarding a F-150 I was considering. Had it not been for being stuck with a Silverado 1500 for 5 weeks, I would have never considered GM.

This exactly what I have on order:
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Picked up the rig yesterday and spent ten hours driving back. Cruise control set at 75 with the AC on the whole way I averaged 21.1 mpg hand calculated. That’s impressive for the 6.2L full size truck. I did similar driving with the 5.3 and I couldn’t get better than 19.5.

Long drive. Dealer was great. Fast and easy. Truck runs smooth and consistent. I was even able to get them to acknowledge the $100 accessory offer on GM’s website so I got 4 oil filters and an engine and cabin filter. Other than oil itself (cheap from Walmart) I’m set for the next 60k miles.
 
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