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DUI Checkpoint

Jtburn_420

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Just out of curiosity...

When did the law regarding disclosure of location of DUI checkpoints change? I thought the location of checkpoints had to be publicaly announced in advance to be a legal checkpoint.

I put this in the LEO forum, because 2Strokes thread is going strong in the Sink, and I just wanted a simple answer, not a flame war.

Thanks
 
while we're on the topic, when did DUI check points become license, registration, insurance, out standing warrants and any other violation we can find points?
Also are the laws for License check points different from DUI check points?
Yes I have run into a "license" check point, yes they were looking for DUIs also but the signage was "License Check Point".
 
The vast majority of fatal/injury/hit and run collisions involve alcohol and/or unlicensed drivers. Our agency towed over 90 cars for unlicensed drivers in one DUI checkpoint. We have been checking drivers licenses at DUI checkpoints for years. If you have been unfortunate enough to have been hit and injured by an unlicensed/uninsured driver, this isn't an issue for you.
 
This thread will be short lived.....

The checkpoints are announced to the media, and I believe its within 2 hrs of the checkpoint.

The CHP just recently, 2-3 years, started checking driver licenses and towing vehicles. Rarely, and I mean it has to be something special, we don't check for warrants, unless someone is arrested.
 
Law abiding citizens should be asking for more check points. IMO. The less drunk driving and unlicensed drivers we have the better.
 
purposeinlife1 said:
Law abiding citizens should be asking for more check points. IMO. The less drunk driving and unlicensed drivers we have the better.
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Different people have different ideas as to the right balance between liberty and security. I don't like checkpoints where you can be stopped when doing nothing wrong, and forced to show your papers.

I remember reading that, in Santa Maria, they were doing license checks at checkpoints but there was too much opposition to it because a bunch of illegal immigrants were getting their cars towed.
 
I don't even see why they have to be announced

what, to warn all the drunks and license-less to take the long way home?
There was always one every few months I'd hit on Monument Blvd. coming home late from work. At least 80% of the people ahead of me would turn out onto side streets before it.
I'd go through it just to give them a moment of company.
 
Politics and personal beliefs aside, something about a road to hell and good intentions comes to mind... :dunno
 
Gawd, this is why I didn't post in the sink....

Anyway, yeah, I googled it, and the location doesn't have to be disclosed. For some reason, I thought where and when had to be announced. Typically in the local paper. I don't know why I thought this.
 
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Junkie said:
I remember reading that, in Santa Maria, they were doing license checks at checkpoints but there was too much opposition to it because a bunch of illegal immigrants were getting their cars towed.
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IIRC, this was also happening in San Rafael a few years ago - the checkpoints were always located on the roads leading in/out of the Canal neighborhood.
 
I love the check points. Great for business.

Does anyone know how many cars were towed and how many people cited to DUI's at the SJPD checkpoint last Friday on Saratoga Ave?

Scotty
 
summitdog said:
Does anyone know how many cars were towed and how many people cited to DUI's at the SJPD checkpoint last Friday on Saratoga Ave?
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I found the press release announcing the checkpoint but couldn't find any results.

San Jose Police Sobriety and Driver's License Checkpoint, Friday, May 31, 2013

Filed under Press Release, on 5/29/2013 8:01:00 AM by Author: Albert Morales #3477.
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San Jose Police Department Targets Impaired Drivers
With Sobriety/Driver License Checkpoint

San Jose, California
Friday, May 31, 2013

7:00 PM to 1:00 AM

San Jose, CA -- San Jose Police Department Traffic Unit will be conducting a DUI/Drivers License Checkpoint on Friday, May 31, 2013 at an undisclosed location within the city limit between the hours of 7:00 pm to 1:00 am.

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MEDIA NOTES: To schedule an interview regarding the San Jose Traffic Safety Operations, please contact Sgt. Steve Payne at (408) 277-4341 or via email 2805@sanjoseca.gov
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hyo650 said:
Politics and personal beliefs aside, something about a road to hell and good intentions comes to mind... :dunno
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Fine if they want to check for DUI people go for it, but the whole checking everyone's license thing is too far imho. If they want to set up license checking points they should at least not disguise them as DUI checkpoints so Joe Citizen thinks it's great they're "taking drunks of the road". Call them License checkpoints since that's what they're doing the most there.
 
aram said:
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Fine if they want to check for DUI people go for it, but the whole checking everyone's license thing is too far imho. If they want to set up license checking points they should at least not disguise them as DUI checkpoints so Joe Citizen thinks it's great they're "taking drunks of the road". Call them License checkpoints since that's what they're doing the most there.
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Careful not to lump all LE agencies together. I worked probably half a dozen checkpoints at my previous agency and we never did license or warrant checks unless the driver was being investigated for DUI.

It was "Hello, I'm Officer Nick and we're conducting a DUI checkpoint tonight. Have you had any alcohol to drink tonight?... Yes/No. Follow my finger with your eyes only, keep your chin still..." If DUI, exit the car and do FSTs and records checks. If not, be on your merry way.

Only times we investigated license violations or warrants in the line was if we had personal knowledge of either.
 
Nick said:
Careful not to lump all LE agencies together. I worked probably half a dozen checkpoints at my previous agency and we never did license or warrant checks unless the driver was being investigated for DUI.

It was "Hello, I'm Officer Nick and we're conducting a DUI checkpoint tonight. Have you had any alcohol to drink tonight?... Yes/No. Follow my finger with your eyes only, keep your chin still..." If DUI, exit the car and do FSTs and records checks. If not, be on your merry way.

Only times we investigated license violations or warrants in the line was if we had personal knowledge of either.
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I agree, if that's what you're doing then it follows the intent of the dui checkpoint at and I get it.

I also get if you see the same guy that you pulled over a month ago with a suspended license that you're going to check his stuff.. but there's something that feels very sinister about disguising a license checkpoint as a dui checkpoint to me and checking everyone's (or every fifth person or whatever) license that rolls through
 
aram said:
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Fine if they want to check for DUI people go for it, but the whole checking everyone's license thing is too far imho. If they want to set up license checking points they should at least not disguise them as DUI checkpoints so Joe Citizen thinks it's great they're "taking drunks of the road". Call them License checkpoints since that's what they're doing the most there.
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The ones we do have posted signs that say DUI / Driver License Checkpoint. That is also what we put out on the press release. So we're not hiding anything.

Besides, we typically just look at the license and if it is in possession and not expired then we don't run the person for license status or warrants. That only happens when they don't have a license in possession, it is expired, or there are objective symptoms that the driver is under the influence of alcohol.
 
Had a long winded reply for a few of the LEO's in this thread, but it's beating a dead horse.

I would rather be arrested than produce my license in a warrantless, no PC search. And only because I refuse to have my 4th amendments rights trampled on.

In short, our government has been oversteeping it's bounds for a long time. And the "sheeple" have come to accept it. Pandora's box has been opened, and it's to late to shut it now.
 
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