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Failed my MSF and need some advice. :(

cupholder said:
Off topic, but was your class in afternoon on the 6th?
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No...I was on standby for that time and never had the chance to get into that class because it was all full on the 5th.

P.S. When a mod wakes up can you move this thread to the training area. I think Outta Control is right this discussion is best held in the Training area since it has gone beyond the boundaries discussion of the Newbie forums.
 
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Well, what did you do wrong? Did you drop it in a turn? Stall it? Grab the brakes? What event(s) do you think lead to you failing?
 
Hand_Banana said:
Well, what did you do wrong? Did you drop it in a turn? Stall it? Grab the brakes? What event(s) do you think lead to you failing?
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I dropped the motorcycle once while braking it to a stop if I remember correctly. Cornering ( especially the cone weaving exercise ) was also a problem and I believe it was because I was moving to slowly throughout the whole training and not counter-steering correctly. I also stalled out several times while riding the course and almost dropped the motorcycle a second time while stalling out. At that point I was asked if I wanted to leave and I said yes because I had grown completely frustrated and was dead tired from the entire ordeal. Admittedly the more things went wrong the more I felt nervous, frustrated and angry toward myself. I am sure there were more things which I did not notice that I was not doing correctly.
 
Dug said:
I dropped the motorcycle once while braking it to a stop if I remember correctly. Cornering ( especially the cone weaving exercise ) was also a problem and I believe it was because I was moving to slowly throughout the whole training and not counter-steering correctly. I also stalled out several times while riding the course and almost dropped the motorcycle a second time while stalling out. At that point I was asked if I wanted to leave and I said yes because I had grown completely frustrated and was dead tired from the entire ordeal. Admittedly the more things went wrong the more I felt nervous, frustrated and angry toward myself. I am sure there were more things which I did not notice that I was not doing correctly.
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It does appear that you have a collection of areas you need to work on but you will not be the first nor the last to deal with it. First and foremost you need to understand the building block process or baby steps needed to be more confident in riding. Here are some of my concepts to give a starting point first of is being a "smooth operator" which means any inputs or manipulations done to the motorcycle must be smooth and progressive. Now that doesn't mean to be choppy and "grabby". Secondly speed equals stability, the faster you go the more stable the motorcycle will become. Both of these concepts will give a starting point. You need to learn things slowly, break down the process and build from it to be able to go faster. Technique supersedes speed, the more repetitious you are in doing the technique correctly the speed will follow right behind. OP PM me if you like to give you more tips and advise.
 
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Take your time! Seems like you are just nervous. The course is not set up to fail you, but to teach you. Take it again with confidence. "Ride that motorcycle, don't let it ride you." :thumbup:thumbup:thumbup
 
Hey don't worry about failing the course. what's important is the training you've learned from msf. personally i would have stayed even if i dropped the bike, stalled, or made a few mistakes, because if i do fail the test, i know what i should work on. and like you, i was one of the guys that failed my test. i also have no riding experience except for a bicycle and a small scooter. i know how you feel, it feels so frustrating when you can't do what the instructors tell you to do. but remember, they are only there to evaluate you, once you get on the road, the only person that is going to evaluate you is yourself. i retaken the msf the 2nd time and i've passed. its ok to be nervous, just don't think about anything else except for the task you need to do. don't be afraid of falling, it happens. but you need to know what happened/what caused you to fall down, in order for you to avoid making the same mistakes again. you should, get a bike if you still don't have one, 1 would suggest getting a used 250. you can always move to a bigger bike once you get used to it. buy a good helmet, preferably snell & dot approved. once you have your bike and your gear, practice doing your turns, control, balance, don't ride too fast or too slow, know your limit, try to remember the lessons from your rider coach, and practice. it would be nice to ride with someone with experience, some friends/family/ even barfers. because they can give you pointers on how to ride effective TEMPORARILY. but still it would be best for you to learn all the lessons they teach in msf. not all advices your friends or relatives give you, when it comes to riding is correct. so, i suggest retaking the msf. LISTEN very carefully, always stay in the front when the ridercoach is explaining something, and if you have questions, always ask...practice clutch and throttle control, using both brakes, friction zone, swerving, pushing the handle bar on the direction you want to go, always turn your head/always look in the direction you want to go, this will help you in your figure 8, and tight turns. Good luck!
 
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