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GGB Closed both direction

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that scene looks terrible. I didn't see any bikes in the mess besides CHP tho.

BTW, they said 6 injured, 4 seriously, including an infant. :(
 
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Isn't that a motorcycle on the ground right behind the small pickup truck, near where they're working on somebody?
 
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Hellfish_Monkey said:
Hey, Volvo drivers are the best!
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thats very interesting, the volvo part. something i forgot about but remember now, when i first started riding again a few years back: a friend took me aside and said "things are different now, the most dangerous thing on the road is the volvo driver. if someone is going to take you out, its going to be a volvo, always watch out for the volvo"

i asked him to elaborate, and he couldnt very well. but said something about the fact that they are so safe they give the driver sort of a reverse (perverse?) feeling of protection, not only that nothing can happen to them, but that they are immune from doing harm or damage to others!

and i have to say there have been bad volvo moments in my few new years riding. and i do avoid them, superstitiously and on his good word. and ill just keep it that way, even though i own a volvo!

does anyone else have a volvo story, to corroborate this friends sage or sad advice?
 
"The crash happened at 2:43 p.m. when the driver of an older model Volvo station wagon heading north crossed into the southbound lanes and hit another car, said CHP Officer Mary Ziegenbein."
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Take today's stereotype of a Prius driver, add the stereotype of an SUV driver, and that's what we thought of Volvo drivers 20 years ago. In usenet lingo they were often called OVLOVs for the imprint they'd leave on a rider's butt.

There's just something about drivers who think "safety" is a property of the vehicle rather than the driver.
 
schumacher62 said:
does anyone else have a volvo story, to corroborate this friends sage or sad advice?
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Back in The Day, on w[rec]k.moto we used to refer to them as ovloV's. As that's the last thing you see before you get crunched. I'm surprised to see y'all talking about it here like you've discovered something new.

It does seem to hold true however, and it has a lot to do with the kind of people who buy Volvo's and why they buy them I suppose. They are the archetypical bad driver soccer mom weapon of choice.

-JG
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egrep said:
Back in The Day, on w[rec]k.moto we used to refer to them as ovloV's. As that's the last thing you see before you get crunched. I'm surprised to see y'all talking about it here like you've discovered something new!

-JG
DoD #1439
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Blast from the past. I had almost forgotten about rec.moto.

And yeah, Ovlov has been what I've been calling em for about 20 years. You don't hear it much anymore.
 
I think you're fairly correct in the assessment that Volvo drivers tend to think "Hey! I drive the safest. car. EVAR. Why worry?" and totally drive like asshats.

Of course, for every Volvo I see driving like a total douche, I see 1,000 that aren't. Same goes for Priuses (Prii?) and Audis. But I guess the question is, of the pool of bad drivers, is there an unbalanced percentage of Volvo, Prius & Audi drivers? I'd say no. I see people drive horribly in all kinds of vehicles.
e.g., Yesterday I saw a box truck swerve into the #1 lane on 680 and forced a Honda onto the breakdown lane on the center divide. Honda almost hit a light pole barrier but recovered from a fishtail just in time. That's not the first time I've seen a crappy box-truck driver & it won't be the last. I guess it all depends what you're focusing your attention on.
 
Oh great.

Now the City of San Francisco is going to spend $10,000,000 on "researching a viable divider for the Golden Gate Bridge" and then spend $800,000 a year with some movable K-rail system that is going to prevent accidents but will screw up traffic 24 hours a day, 7 days a week instead of leaving it how it is now, saving the money, and having a huge wreck/backup like this every 10 years.

Prepare for $9.00 bridge tolls. :)

Oh, and Hellfish Monkey. The bad-drivers-in-cars stats go like this:

1) Prius
2) Pick-up truck with lumber racks
3) Golden Gate Transit busses

:)
 
Hellfish_Monkey said:
I guess it all depends what you're focusing your attention on.
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If you kids don't stop it back there I'm going to pull this car over right now! Give me that! GIVE ME THAT! Stop it! *CRASH*

:(
 
antarius said:
Oh great.

Now the City of San Francisco is going to spend $10,000,000 on "researching a viable divider for the Golden Gate Bridge" and then spend $800,000 a year with some movable K-rail system that is going to prevent accidents but will screw up traffic 24 hours a day, 7 days a week instead of leaving it how it is now, saving the money, and having a huge wreck/backup like this every 10 years.

Prepare for $9.00 bridge tolls. :)

Oh, and Hellfish Monkey. The bad-drivers-in-cars stats go like this:

1) Prius
2) Pick-up truck with lumber racks
3) Golden Gate Transit busses

:)
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Nah, MUNI should be #1
 
interesting. just yesterday i came across a really great essay by a guy named stanley fish, called "the unbearable ugliness of volvos." (google books link, i'm not sure if the link will work)

basically about how pretentious academics will buy volvos specifically cuz they're ugly, much like pretentious academics will pompously associate themselves with badly written, unreadably dense philosophy books specifically because they're badly written, i.e., "not of the mainstream", and somehow makes them better/smarter than everyone else. or that's my take, i was reading up on the purpose of badly written philosophy books, and came across a reference to mr stanley fish's essay.

i'm not saying that all people who read dense philosophical writers are pretentious, or that all volvo owners are pompous, by the way.
 
Crash shot from NBC 11

Looks like a motorcycle between the red smashed car and the green pickup with a camper shell. Looks like they may have been sandwhiched between the two.
Looks like a red bike with a red helmet, possibly a cruiser.
 
i just watched the news,and it was a honda cruiser,red/cream color.the rider is ok,even though he evil knieveled for 30ft. when he rear-ended the car in front of him!!the news said he had gear on.....:thumbup
 
spdt509 said:
i just watched the news,and it was a honda cruiser,red/cream color.the rider is ok,even though he evil knieveled for 30ft. when he rear-ended the car in front of him!!the news said he had gear on.....:thumbup
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VERY NICE! :thumbup

The bike looked pretty bad, I was figuring he was one of the two "major injury cases" but they may be in the two vehicles that hit head on.
 
schumacher62 said:
does anyone else have a volvo story, to corroborate this friends sage or sad advice?
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The old Highway 17 Page of Shame used to have a LOT of highly amusing anti-Volvo content. Having ridden that freeway many times I have to agree that slow Volvos are a hazard to other motorists. Moike is in the process of resurrecting that website but a Google search does not yield results.


Oh and could some code savvy nerd please invent the SIG ALERT TRANSLATOR? Trying to decipher that crap makes me :loco :zzz
 
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