Hand operated rear brake?

[synfinatic]

Cool. Does it interfere with blipping the throttle during upshitting? Or you get used to it?

Clutch side.

 

[Marcoose]

Clutch side.

I had noticed that. Let me rephrase. Does it mess with smooth and constant brake pressure while clutching, blipping and upshifting? Or perhaps you don't blip the throttle? Or perhaps you use the foot pedal while blipping and upshifting?

 

[kelsodeez]

i would be down for a seamless transmission and a thumb brake. throw in some internal winglets and chill also.

 

[kelsodeez]

also throw in a salad box. i dont know what it does but i want one

 

[El Feo]

I had noticed that. Let me rephrase. Does it mess with smooth and constant brake pressure while clutching, blipping and upshifting? Or perhaps you don't blip the throttle? Or perhaps you use the foot pedal while blipping and upshifting?

I'm guessing he uses at much as I do.

Hey Aaron, why do you have to do the fancy GP shift adapter? Did you have clearance issues if you just flipped the knuckle at the gear shaft?

 

[synfinatic]

I had noticed that. Let me rephrase. Does it mess with smooth and constant brake pressure while clutching, blipping and upshifting? Or perhaps you don't blip the throttle? Or perhaps you use the foot pedal while blipping and upshifting?

Well for upshifting I just let the quick shifter do the work.

Downshifting/going into turns I don't use it. As I said in my first post, I don't actually use the rear brake at all on track. The only reason I have a thumb brake is because my bike doesn't have any way of mounting a traditional rear foot operated brake.

That said, when I decide to start working on the technique, I don't think it will be an issue based on how it is adjusted. That said, I also have a slipper so it's a bit more forgiving in general.

 

[synfinatic]

I'm guessing he uses at much as I do.

Hey Aaron, why do you have to do the fancy GP shift adapter? Did you have clearance issues if you just flipped the knuckle at the gear shaft?

During a race I made contact with another rider going into T14 @ Thill and folded the front. The bike and I came out with basically no damage... well except for the small problem of the shift knuckle catching the ground, pushing the shift rod into the motor enough to make contact with the back of the clutch basket (which was still spinning at the time) which sized the motor and cracked my engine cases. That was a bad day.

Actually it's a common issue with SV's in general with GP shift, so not a problem specific to my bike.

 

[Marcoose]

Well for upshifting I just let the quick shifter do the work.

Downshifting/going into turns I don't use it. As I said in my first post, I don't actually use the rear brake at all on track. The only reason I have a thumb brake is because my bike doesn't have any way of mounting a traditional rear foot operated brake.

That said, when I decide to start working on the technique, I don't think it will be an issue based on how it is adjusted. That said, I also have a slipper so it's a bit more forgiving in general.

Got it. Thanks. And sorry about writing upshifting when I meant downshifting.

 

[synfinatic]

No problem. Glad I was able to help!

 

[clutchslip]

Is this on the throttle/right hand?

Absolutely NOT. In fact, if I didn't have a hand clutch, like suggested, I would move my front brake to the left and put the rear brake on the throttle hand for a STREET bike. For a dirt bike I would do the opposite with no clutch.

It is interesting how many would prefer a hand operated rear brake, and yet, no OEM offers one. Bizarre.

 

[Marcoose]

Absolutely NOT. In fact, if I didn't have a hand clutch, like suggested, I would move my front brake to the left and put the rear brake on the throttle hand for a STREET bike. For a dirt bike I would do the opposite with no clutch.

It is interesting how many would prefer a hand operated rear brake, and yet, no OEM offers one. Bizarre.

I suppose, and totally speaking without deep knowledge on the subject, that motorbikes are too much of a commonplace commodity to radically change a major setup like brakes, even if the change is for the better. Like driving on the left in the UK or using imperial system in America. I am glad, though, that manufacturers offer some models with the easy option to convert from standard to GP shifting pattern. IMHO, it is so much easier and better to shift in GP pattern. Especially the small displacement motorbikes.

 

[clutchslip]

I suppose, and totally speaking without deep knowledge on the subject, that motorbikes are too much of a commonplace commodity to radically change a major setup like brakes, even if the change is for the better. Like driving on the left in the UK or using imperial system in America. I am glad, though, that manufacturers offer some models with the easy option to convert from standard to GP shifting pattern. IMHO, it is so much easier and better to shift in GP pattern. Especially the small displacement motorbikes.

Did you look at the poll? On barf, 3/4 want a hand brake option. It doesn't matter to new riders where it is, because it's all new. It could be operated by both levers, actually, or you could disconnect which one you don't want to use. People use to have suicide shifts on bikes, but those controls were moved to a better position.

 

[synfinatic]

Or another way to look at it is that out of the hundreds of active BARF members, there were 29 who found this topic interesting enough to even take the poll and that 3/4ths of those liked the idea.

In reality, I bet most street riders don't even use the rear brake (other then holding the bike in place on an incline) so don't really care where it is.