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Helmet wind noise fix!!

GB500guy

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Vacaville
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1975 Honda CB125S
1989 Honda GB500
1989 Honda NX250
1989 Honda CB-1
1997 Honda CB50V
Name
Bill
I've been bothered by helmet wind noise since the 1960's. Being younger then I never worried much about it but now at age 66 I need my peace and quiet when riding. A year ago I tried a Windjammer wind blocker http://www.amazon.com/WINDJAMMER-REDUCES-Helmets-original-copied/dp/B003FHLNVK. It seemed to help quite a bit with my Bell Vortex, but my initial enthusiasm has faded. Depending upon riding position and headwinds/crosswinds, I have still been bothered by wind noise at the bottom of the helmet unless wearing ear plugs. I hate wearing ear plugs, so I recently bought a Shoei RF-1200, supposedly one of the quieter helmets out there. Turns out that for my GB500 with its clip on bars and forward riding position it was horribly noisy.

I tried adding extra foam around the neck among other things, but the only thing that would cut the noise was if I shrugged my shoulders up so my jacket contacted the bottom of the helmet. So, I decided to try foam shoulder pads under the jacket. I had some medium density foam that took up the space between shoulders and helmet so I carved a couple of pads and stuck them inside the jacket with double stick tape to test. The result was amazing! The difference was like driving a car with the windows down versus up - it really was that dramatic. I'd guess the reduction is 90 - 95%. Even at 90 mph (just testing, not my usual speed) the wind noise is very tolerable and I never feel the need to wear ear plugs. Now I can hear the engine and surrounding traffic, while experiencing just a mild whooshing sound instead of an obnoxious roar.

Helmet wind noise really varies with rider position, windshield or fairing design if any, and helmet design, so of course your mileage may vary. But for anyone bothered by wind noise, if you find that shrugging your shoulders up reduces it, I suggest taping a couple of foam pads into your jacket as a test, it might just work for you too. After several days of riding to prove the concept, I did the final pad installation as below.

Here is one of the foam pads, carved to shape with a sharp knife:
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I sacrificed a pair of socks to make cloth pouches for the pads, cutting them off 2" longer than the foam. I then applied iron-on Velcro strips to the jacket and the sock pouches. Since the Velcro does not stretch, I used a "U" shaped wire to hold the sock slightly stretched while ironing on the velcro:
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Here is the pouch with the foam inserted and the cut end of the sock stuffed inside. This leaves a slot where an extra layer of foam could be slipped in if I wanted to make it thicker:
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And here are the pads stuck onto the jacket:
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And me wearing the jacket. No real downside as it looks normal and maybe even makes me look like one of those body builders with the bulging muscles and no neck!
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I gotta tell you that riding is soooo much more pleasant without the sound of a typhoon in my ears!

-Bill
 
Wouldn't it be a lot easier to just get a set of decent earplugs?

I recently realized that the box of earplugs I've been using were purchased in 2004. I'll use a set until they get dirty, then toss them and get another new pair. Since each pair is sealed in plastic, they're still good as when I first bought the box. But I recently ordered a box of 3M EARsoft SuperFit plugs from the local AirGas industrial supply and I'll be picking those up tomorrow. I expect them to be better at reducing noise as well as feeling great all day. We'll see.
 
foam would probably be more effective if you put it in your ears.
 
You've been riding longer than I have been alive but could it also be the type of jacket your challenge calls for? A textile mesh jacket will have much more turbulence versus a leather jacket - both properly fitting.
 
Necessity is the mother of invention.
I was wondering if one could use a helmet skirt like the nascar drivers use that goes around the bottom of the helmet.
Bell, Simpson,OG racing ,Crow & GForce make them.
Might be worth testing.
Personally I use a thick full head balaclava.
Seems to keep a lot of noise out with earplugs but not so much I can't hear what's going on around me.
 
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That's an interesting aero solution. I assume it only works on your naked CB, but not for bikes with screen that directs high speed turbulent air at the helmet level.

I always wear ear plugs but they're a pain. I have to insert them deeply into my ears to get effective noise reduction, but the pressure from the tight seal can cause sharp ear pains after a few hours. I wish someone could come up with a wearable aero-aid fairing-thing that forms a quiet bubble around the helmet.
 
I have only 2 helmets; a Shoei X-11 and an X-12. What is this "helmet wind noise" you speak of? You guys must be wearing the wrong helmets.
 
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double bubble or sport touring ZG windshield works wonders for my sportbike and my shoei... quiet helmets seem to work when wind is aimed at them and not really below them. ZG or similar probably make something close or even bigger(harley windshield even) for your bike.
 
I have a ski fleece neck gaiter and that thing does the trick very well. No wind at all in your neck. Great on cold days.
 
Wouldn't it be a lot easier to just get a set of decent earplugs?

In my case, no, for several reasons:
- I find them uncomfortable, no matter the brand and I have tried many types.
- They take a bit of time to compress, install, and wait to expand. Much easier for me to just get on the bike and ride away. And for short trips I'm not tempted to save the bother and do without.
- I don't like not hearing the engine and surrounding traffic sounds
- With quality foam earplugs I can still hear annoying low frequency wind noise, much lower volume of course. But the shoulder pads largely eliminate the cause of the noise, earplugs just cover up the symptoms. I'd rather eliminate the cause at the source.

But that's just me. If others prefer ear plugs that's great, use 'em. I am just sharing a remedy that I find superior in all ways in case others might not be satisfied with ear plugs.

-Bill
 
In my case, no, for several reasons:
- I find them uncomfortable, no matter the brand and I have tried many types.
- They take a bit of time to compress, install, and wait to expand. Much easier for me to just get on the bike and ride away. And for short trips I'm not tempted to save the bother and do without.
- I don't like not hearing the engine and surrounding traffic sounds
- With quality foam earplugs I can still hear annoying low frequency wind noise, much lower volume of course. But the shoulder pads largely eliminate the cause of the noise, earplugs just cover up the symptoms. I'd rather eliminate the cause at the source.

But that's just me. If others prefer ear plugs that's great, use 'em. I am just sharing a remedy that I find superior in all ways in case others might not be satisfied with ear plugs.
Maybe you just haven't tried the right kind of earplugs yet.

I've tried more than a dozen varieties before settling on the ones that work best for me. I had a case of Howard Leight Max earplugs that did a great job of cutting the noise, but didn't feel good for all day use. I sold the rest at a discount to another BARF member. The ones I've been using - North Safety Products Deci 4200 - feel good all day but only have a 31 NRR rating.

The new ones I'll be picking up today, 3M EARsoft SuperFit are rated at 33 NRR, but are softer than average for all day use. That particular model also has markings to show if they are inserted properly. (I don't need that, but when I give a pair to others I can more easily see that they don't have them in properly.)

Some ear plugs feel a lot better than others.

If you want to take a ride out here to Folsom one of these days, I'll give you a couple of pairs of each to try out. Maybe show you a few good twisty roads in the Sierras while you're here. (I'll consider making this offer to other BARF members as long as there aren't too many requests.)
 
I have only 2 helmets; a Shoei X-11 and an X-12. What is this "helmet wind noise" you speak of? You guys must be wearing the wrong helmets.

I thought my Shoei RF1200 was a loud helmet. It has cut-outs for helmet speakers, that can be foam filled to reduce noise.
 
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Maybe you just haven't tried the right kind of earplugs yet.
The new ones I'll be picking up today, 3M EARsoft SuperFit are rated at 33 NRR, but are softer than average for all day use.

I agree those plugs are among the best I've tried. My favorite though is this one:
http://www.earplugstore.com/ear-earsoft-grippers-corded-earplugs-cs.html

But for all the reasons I stated above, eliminating the noise-causing turbulence in the first place works best for me and is most convenient. Each to his own.

-Bill
 
I am an advocate of ear plugs, but...

One of my ear canals is wonky. Takes a turn and is very, very difficult to seal ear with foam plugs. Have tried the custom-made plugs, not as good in reducing decibel level of wind noise.

Wondering if one of those horseshoe shoulder pillows used by travelers would work? We have some around but they are all to voluminous for this purpose.


No doubt my namesake is on the right path. Have noticed that well-fitted helmet reduces the air flow around the neck, thus limiting potential for wind noise. And some jackets are better than others. Fabric & fit can further aid reducing db. Big help would be an inch or two taller wind screen on current bike. Long torso places my noggin' in the slipstream.

Keep the solutions coming.
 
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