Hollywood Strike thread

[Eldritch]

My support is both general and specifics.

You don't have know the motivations of all the rich donating and supporting. Just because they stand to benefit doesn't make it not a selfless act to donate and support.

Can't prove what's in their head one way or the other. Neither can I. It's not like I'm defending rich people and don't think rich people want to get richer but I believe some of them have their heart and money in the right place. To think none of them are acting with selfless intent is too cynical and being way too confident thinking in absolutes.

That's all.

Selflessness is not a measure of how you feel, it is a cost/benefit analysis.

 

[Kurosaki]

Selflessness is not a measure of how you feel, it is a cost/benefit analysis.

That's literally not the definition.

self·less
adjective
concerned more with the needs and wishes of others than with one's own; unselfish.

 

[Johndicezx9]

 

[Eldritch]

That's literally not the definition.

self·less
adjective
concerned more with the needs and wishes of others than with one's own; unselfish.

Except it is, look after the semicolon. If there is self advancement involved, it cannot entirely be unselfish.

 

[Kurosaki]

Except it is, look after the semicolon. If there is self advancement involved, it cannot entirely be unselfish.

un·sel·fish
adjective
willing to put the needs or wishes of others before one's own.
"unselfish devotion"


I'm not gonna discuss a topic with you if you're trying to redefine what words mean.

 

[Eldritch]

un·sel·fish
adjective
willing to put the needs or wishes of others before one's own.
"unselfish devotion"


I'm not gonna discuss a topic with you if you're trying to redefine what words mean.

I'm not? Like I said, they have their own interests at play here and that isn't in question.

Like, no one is kissing Bill Gates ass for giving so much to charity, because they know he gets a juicy tax write off. Yes, he is doing some giving, which is cool, but I am not about to call him a hero for it, because I know he also gets some benefit.

It is cool, but I am not able to play like there are not other factors running here.

 

[Kurosaki]

You're saying things I already agreed with about the self-serving motivations of a portion of the rich strike donators. I believe they are not all that way and many are acting in a selfless manor. Period.

I don't agree with your cynicism but that's you. I'm not interested in playing the dictionary game further so we don't need to talk in circles on it.

The thread can get back to more salient points.

 

[Johndicezx9]

un·sel·fish
adjective
willing to put the needs or wishes of others before one's own.
"unselfish devotion"


I'm not gonna discuss a topic with you if you're trying to redefine what words mean.

You're wasting keystrokes on that one....

 

[byke]

Tax write offs aren't very exciting until you donate yourself into a new tax bracket, but I suspect Bill Gates is deep into tax bracket saturation, which means the amount he donates will always be a lot more than the amount he's able to reduce his tax liability.

But I do think ED is technically correct. People generally do not do things that they truly get nothing out of. Everything we do has +'s and -'s and we place them on a scale and when the +'s outweigh the -'s, that's when we do the thing. People generally do good things because it feels good to them to do it, even if it appears selfless to an observer. It's not very often that people choose to do elective things that have nothing but downsides.

 

[budman]

I am in the so what if it will help them ultimately they just gave bank camp.

As far as I am concerned it is good deal and will help others.