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how do you remember all the codes??

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just as the title says..how do you know them?? like when you pull someone over, and you write on the ticket they were pulled over for a 1098a yadda yadda :rolleyes or there's a 848 situation going on..

i hope my question makes sense to you guys..
 
Can I make the assumption you are an explorer with an agency? Ask someone in your post if they can get you a copy of the codes from your dispatch. The vehicle code and the penal code are going to be the same through out the state, however, radio codes can vary by agency, and even their ten codes may not compliant with the standard APCO radio codes.
 
In the academy we used flash cards to remember the most common Penal and Vehicle Codes. I used the same method to remember the "ten codes" and "eleven codes" that you speak of.

In reality, I forget some of the vehicle codes/penal codes and remember others that I use more often.
 
Shot in the dark...memorization coupled with repetition.
 
I did the flash card thing in the academy for various penal, vehicle, health and safety (H&S), business and professions (B&P) and welfare and institutions (W&I) codes. They drill you on the most common ones, want you to give the elements, whether it is an infraction, misdemeanor, wobbler (a crime that can be charged as a misdemeanor or felony) or a felony.

Once you get to your agency, they give you their radio codes, which differ from region to region, county to county and in some cases, agency to agency. Most counties are pretty standardized. There is a 9 code, 10 code, 11 code.. those can be found on-line and as I said, they can vary from one area or jurisdiction to another. Most agencies use a combination of all 3. You would also get a shitload of city and county ordinances to review and be expected to be proficient with. You need to know how some differ from a similar state code and what elements need to be satisfied. Believe it or not, you also need to know what evidence needs to be collected for what crimes (which also differs when the suspect is a juvenile or an adult) and what specific forms need to be completed for each type of crime and each type of defendant (adult, juvenile, probationer, parolee, ward of the court, etc..).

For the most part, you are expected to know about 2/3rds of the radio codes and all of the various state, county and city laws that you would encounter on a regular basis. It just comes with time and repeated use. It is not nearly as important to KNOW a majority of the exact code numbers and subsections as it is very important to know 1) the elements of crimes (that there is even a law, then what the elements of the law) and 2) where to look to get the specific code section(s) for a ticket or booking sheet.

As for the vehicle, penal and W&I, H&S or B&P codes, unless it is a section I cite or use daily, I always verify the code section when I am writing a ticket or submitting a booking sheet or a report with a request to file charges. I have a cheat sheet, quick code and the code books (or trimmed down versions) handy at all times, so it takes me about 2 seconds to check and verify each code section. Often I find even better sections to use (which are more applicable or carry enhancements). It is much easier to check each time than to do a correction down the line. It also shows more professionalism, in my opinion.
 
}Dragon{ said:
Can I make the assumption you are an explorer with an agency? Ask someone in your post if they can get you a copy of the codes from your dispatch. The vehicle code and the penal code are going to be the same through out the state, however, radio codes can vary by agency, and even their ten codes may not compliant with the standard APCO radio codes.
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APCO's "thing" was intended to do away with radio codes and have everyone go clear text. That way, on mutual aid dealios, a Barking Dog call won't have neighboring agencies arrive with a SWAT team...Hasn't gotten LEO traction though- codes still abound. Fire is largely clear text now.
 
NorCalBusa said:
APCO's "thing" was intended to do away with radio codes and have everyone go clear text. That way, on mutual aid dealios, a Barking Dog call won't have neighboring agencies arrive with a SWAT team...Hasn't gotten LEO traction though- codes still abound. Fire is largely clear text now.
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APCO has a standard 10 code: http://spiffy.ci.uiuc.edu/~kline/Stuff/ten-codes.html (which confused the crap outta me at first when I worked in NV).

I only know of one LE agency in the East Bay that used (not sure about now) clear text, but it's simple and it works. I'm a firm believer in K.I.S.S. (keep it simple, stupid! - not the rock band).
 
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So does 10-98.:cool
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No it doesn't. We have computers that you can do all that crap over the air!

I can't stand when I hear nearby agencies talking it up like they own the channel (we share it with 4 departments) when they have computers that allow them to go 10-8, 10-97, 10-98, 10-49 (er, enroute), and 10-49 jail / 10-97 at the jail.

Not to mention it allows them to do 10-28's and 10-29's.

My ears would be so much younger if they used it.
 
antarius said:
No it doesn't. We have computers that you can do all that crap over the air!

I can't stand when I hear nearby agencies talking it up like they own the channel (we share it with 4 departments) when they have computers that allow them to go 10-8, 10-97, 10-98, 10-49 (er, enroute), and 10-49 jail / 10-97 at the jail.

Not to mention it allows them to do 10-28's and 10-29's.

My ears would be so much younger if they used it.
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We had the previous version of these MDT's: http://www.ccomm911.com/images/chmbconsole2.JPG with a whole 32K of RAM, not this MDC stuff. :laughing

For fire we used Modats- which were just push button systems (ENRT, OnScn, AIQ, AOR, OOS buttons).

But you are right, for routine traffic 95% can be handled by the computer to reduce radio traffic.
 
most ofc's know the common ones, stop sign, red light, etc. my dept gives us a small little handbook that lists a lot of common PC and VC codes, AND the patrol car's computer has a thing where you can search for what you need (sort of like the CA penal code website). If none of those has the answer.... then you get another Ofc to see if he knows.
 
so would you officers advise on memorizing the codes from this website then? http://spiffy.ci.uiuc.edu/~kline/Stuff/ten-codes.html i do have two years to go until i will most likely be hired, so i have plenty of time

also, obviously everything starts with '10' so do you say 10-36,"ten thirty six' or "ten three six"? sorry for the simple questions, but some body's got to ask them
 
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You need to buy a scanner and listen. Heck, you'll know the codes without even having a cheat sheet. Go see Glenn at Scanners Unlimited in San Carlos on El Camino Real. Great guy.
 
i will definitely do that this coming week..i went on his website and it looks like he is closing down and wont be around after march 11...i will be giving him a call Tuesday and see if i can get him to put one aside for me
 
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