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How does Monster stack up?

They don't stack too well, almost every one that goes down ends up with a dented tank (bar hits em). For a newer rider, you might want to think about getting a pre-stacked one, and replace the tank after a few years.
 
wow, lots of great responses. Does rejetting require dyno time to figure out which size jets are best? And what is PCIII?

Scott, thanks a bunch for the link to ducatimonster.org, and for those of you letting me know about Monsters for sale thanks too, but I may be waiting a few months.
 
Originally posted by Mr.Ed
if you want to run with the 600 boys up in the twisties is clipons and rearsets. this will put you in a better position to ride the bike harder and give you more lean angle clearance.
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Also what are clipons and rearsets?
 
cheap said:
Also what are clipons and rearsets?
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THe monster has a fairly relaxed riding position, meaning on a stock monster you do not lean forward much. While this makes it more comfy and less intimidating to ride, it also means it is not as aggressive in terms of rider's position.

Get on a sportbike and see how far you lean forward. Then get on something like an SV or monster, and see how much less you lean forward.

On the monster, one way to get more angle forward is drop the point where your hands meet the bike, on the grips. The stock handlebar is in a fixed position. Clipons are handlebars that clip on to the front forks, usually at a lower position than stock. The lower down your hands are, the more leaned forward you are, and the more bite the front tire will have upon turn-in.

Rearsets refer to your shifting assembly and rear brake assembly, or basically where you put your feet.. Again, if you move them to a more aggressive (less comfortable) position, you get a more aggressive stance on the bike.
 
clipons are two bars that clip on to the front forks one on each side, like modern sportbikes. most monsters come with a standard handlebar which is just one big bar that is attached to the top triple clamp. clipons will generally be lower and more forward giving you a more race oriented posture, while handlebars are the opposite giving you a more upright comfortable posture.

rearsets are the whole footpeg assembly (footpeg, shifters/brakepedals, mounting brackets, heel guards, etc). aftermarket rearsets are generally higher off the ground and set farther back. sometimes they are adjustable, allowing you to position the peg anywhere within a range. moving the pegs up will allow you to lean further before scraping things (unless you have other bits on your motorcycle that stick out farther, ie exhaust header)

putting on clipons and rearsets will change your body geometry so its more like that of a sportbike. much less comfortable for long rides, but you will have better feel and better input in steering.
 
Mr.Ed said:

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:cry fond memories of that bike :(

And yes, stock peg's/exhaust touch down rather easily in the twisties running at a good clip.
 
cheap said:
wow, lots of great responses. Does rejetting require dyno time to figure out which size jets are best? And what is PCIII?
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The Monsters with carburetors, 900 through 1999 and 750 through about 2002, require rejetting if you modify the airbox. Modifying the pipes doesn't really require rejetting on most Monster engines. Mine certainly didn't need it.

PCIII is Power Commander 3. That allows you to modify the air/fuel mixture on the fuel injected Monsters.

If you're just after jetting that feels good, you don't need a dyno. Buy a Factory Pro jet kit and you can get it close right off. I rode mine for a few months paying attention to exactly how it behaved under all conditions, then went back into the carburetors and made a couple of minor changes to get it just right. I can't say if it had maximum power, but it ran smoothly up to the 9000 rpm redline, ran without choke after 30 seconds of warmup even on the coldest days, and was very responsive in nearly all conditions. Check out the FAQ on jetting at DucatiMonster.org for details of what it takes to rejet.

Obligatory Monster photo:
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cheap said:
I've never heard one before, but understand it has a different sound due to the lack of valve springs? I'd really like to see a diagram of how the springs work. Anyone have a link to a Monster exhaust .wav?
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Desmo 2v valvetrain looks like this...

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-Mike-
 
navy8ret said:
I don't know where you picked up that idea, but it has been the other way around. Since the SV hit the market the SV's have been compared to the Duc's.
As far as I have heard there has not been any direct comparison by any of the bike mags, yet. Would be interesting to see though.

MMMM I think an E-mail is in order to some bike mags. :shhh
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Motorcyclist last month did an article about cheap, er, inexpensive bikes and part of the article was dedicated to the Monster 600 outside of the comparison of the FZ6, SV650 and 599.
 
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