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I guess the arguments about using WD40 on your o-ring chain are over...

firstbuell said:
how did V4s get into a chain lube thread?

oh, well, to briefly continue your TJ, here's a home-brewed CR500x4 mill:
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He is very knowledgeable when it comes to lubricants. He talked over my head for ten minutes one day about viscosity and will happily soliloquize on chain lube. V4s are just what he uses on BARF to amuse himself.

The CR2000 is badass, btw.

I use a refillable vegetable oil pump, like some would use in the kitchen, to lube my chain. It's more environmentally friendly.

:afm199
 
NorCalAthlete said:
Sprocket + chain still is about the same as lubing your chain every 100 miles. Mildly cheaper to lube it than replace sprockets and chain over the long run though. Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying don't do it or that it's a great habit to not lube your chain. Just that I don't see a need to be fanatical to the point of every 100 miles. Hell, for people that commute from SF to Mountain View or something that'd be daily. At the very least it's every single weekend for most riders. A bit ridiculous for most bikes imo.
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Seriously, every 100 miles? Who's got time for that?? I'd be cleaning my chain every other day at work.

I don't see how modern sticky lube helps with chain life, dirt and road grime seems to love to get stuck to it. I still use it anyway just because you're supposed to but I feel like a UV protectant for the o-rings, a thin oil (Scotts Oiler) and a gentle scrubbing would do more for chain life.

I only get about 12k miles on my chains before they're thrashed no matter what cleaning schedule I use, but I have a thumper that's thwacking it around all day.
 
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Wow... 43 chain lube messages and nobody has touted a chain oiler?

I read they double or triple chain life, so I got one and have never looked back. Chain is always moist. The constant drip of oil flings off just enough to keep the chain clean of debris but doesn't gunk up the tire or bike. I wipe the rim clean when I wash the bike.

The Tutoro oiler works by a small weight that releases the oil when going over bumps with the flow rate adjusted by a small valve. Around $100 bucks. I use Stihl chainsaw oil which is way cheaper than the chain lube spray cans and negates the need for cleaners, either WD-40 or kerosene.
 
am I the only one who also uses wd-40 to brush his teeth ? it leaves a light oil taste :)
 
you really think it's over

really?

there could be one chain lube on the market and no such thing as WD40 and people would swear by maple syrup just to argue. Nevertheless, nice to see WD40 responding to needs of consumers but the point of the original was that it could do so many things.

This is just like, WD40 brand chain lube.
 
LectricBill said:
Wow... 43 chain lube messages and nobody has touted a chain oiler?

I read they double or triple chain life, so I got one and have never looked back. Chain is always moist. The constant drip of oil flings off just enough to keep the chain clean of debris but doesn't gunk up the tire or bike. I wipe the rim clean when I wash the bike.

The Tutoro oiler works by a small weight that releases the oil when going over bumps with the flow rate adjusted by a small valve. Around $100 bucks. I use Stihl chainsaw oil which is way cheaper than the chain lube spray cans and negates the need for cleaners, either WD-40 or kerosene.
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How much oil do you use per mile or month or whatever?
 
I use regular old WD-40 as a bead lube when I change tires. Works great, completely disperses, doesn't hurt the rubber and unlike soapy water, it won't cause rim corrosion under the tire/tube. In fact it helps to prevent it. My (spoke) nipples are always shiny.
 
LectricBill said:
Wow... 43 chain lube messages and nobody has touted a chain oiler?

I read they double or triple chain life, so I got one and have never looked back. Chain is always moist. The constant drip of oil flings off just enough to keep the chain clean of debris but doesn't gunk up the tire or bike. I wipe the rim clean when I wash the bike.

The Tutoro oiler works by a small weight that releases the oil when going over bumps with the flow rate adjusted by a small valve. Around $100 bucks. I use Stihl chainsaw oil which is way cheaper than the chain lube spray cans and negates the need for cleaners, either WD-40 or kerosene.
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How many miles do you have on your chain so far? 50,000 to 75,000 miles is a lot of miles on a chain.

I got about 25,000 miles from the chain on my 600 till it got past the tension marks.
 
Blankpage said:
How would you determine how it works. Your chain will likely last 22-25 thousand miles if you squirt wd-40 on it weekly or if you did nothing but simply adjust it.
I bought a TL1000 new and would clean and lube the chain on a regular basis. It wore out at 22k. Then I bought an R1 and would only occasionally lube and adjust and its chain lasted around the same.
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I meant how it "works" as far far as things like cast off, and how "dry" the chain appears after a few hundred miles, and how much "grit" is stuck on the chain surfaces...

I clean and lube my chain an insane amount. it's more OCD then anything else. I like it when my bike is spotless. So as far as things like bottom line chain wear depending on what I use on the chain, I could probably use Jergen's hand lotion and it would work as well as the best chain lube given how often I service my chain and how clean it always is.

I have absolutely no idea if straight WD40 is good or bad, I just considered that when I used it for a while on the ZX-6, the chain would be dry to the touch after only a few hundred miles (No apparent residue or coating on the chain at all) Good thing? Bad thing? again I have no idea, but it just seemed like it would be better if there was a slippery film on the chain always, which was the case when I used traditional chain lubes.

"How it works" was mainly just involving observation of how it stuck or didn't stick on the chain over time. I've used probably 5 or 6 different kinds of chain lube, and some of them would cast off large amounts onto the inside rim of the wheel and I found that a little irritating...

The comment about this product ending the WD40 debate as a lube has nothing to do with if WD40 is a good lube or not, but only because both sides can say "I use WD40 on my chain" LoL!
 
Just remember that no matter what we use, all those chemicals get into the environment. Either via the water you use to wash the lube off your wheels, or the soaked rags you throw away. So it would be better for all of us if we started using a non-toxic lube of some kind. Not sure what that would be. Is chain wax still a petroleum product?
 
LectricBill said:
Wow... 43 chain lube messages and nobody has touted a chain oiler?

I read they double or triple chain life, so I got one and have never looked back. Chain is always moist. The constant drip of oil flings off just enough to keep the chain clean of debris but doesn't gunk up the tire or bike.
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Fuck that aftermarket stuff, my Ducati has a chain oiler built right in!

Not only that, but there's no seperate fill spout to mess with, it just uses the regular engine oil!!! :thumbup
 
Hooli said:
Correct. Cat grease is sufficient. :laughing

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Some Cat grease is better than others though.

Tabby CG is pretty much general purpose stuff, but hot red Italian bikess really should use Siamese YOWL 2x.

WWWobble
 
planegray said:
am I the only one who also uses wd-40 to brush his teeth ? it leaves a light oil taste :)
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Cafe Racer said:
On my street bikes, I've used WD40 for 20+ years. I lube the chain often. I've never had a problem. It keeps the chain clean and doesn't hold grit.

But I do lube the chain every 100 miles (appx) and clean out after every ride. No "O"or "X" ring issues. Chains last and wear normally.

I look forward to trying out the new formula.
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Man if I had to lube the chain every 100 miles, I would have to carry the bottle with me and lube it 3 times each ride.

FWIW I use wd40. Every other ride and wipe excess off. I dont care what people say about the orings. My oem rings lased me 30k on my r1 using wd40.

I replace aftermarket chains at 20k ish.. I use it to reduce gunk/dirt that kink up the chains. Go ahead and spend 30 bucks for a chain lube every 6 months. In 2 years I can use that lube money to buy new chains.
 
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