Keigwin b- group comparable to z2 c group?

[nvetro]

Last year was my first season doing track days, I did about 15 of them total /w Z2, Keigwins, and PTT.

The Z2 C group I feel was fantastic for me when I started, not having a street bike and not having been on a bike in 2 years put me at a disadvantage and I had a bigger learning curve as I had to get comfortable even being on a bike again. The class room instruction really set a solid foundation for me, I basically threw everything I knew about riding and body position and started from scratch, thats one way to get rid of bad habits The class room instruction was great and not only went over being safe on the track but also went over body position, braking, apexing, looking ahead, etc....It made my first time back not as stressful and more fun

I continued with Z2-C group for a few more track days and continuing going to the in class sessions, then did a few without the class room sessions. I feel like this was really good because the first time I did a Keigwins b- group I noticed it was faster (from my noob perspective) and you were expected to know certain things off the bat (less hand holding basically). Once I got comfortable I jumped into B group (z2) and B+ (keigwins), did that for a few sessions and then jumped into B group /w PTT....jesus those guys were FASTTT (even in the morning sessions)....fast forward to today I am running in B group /w PTT/Z2 and B+ with Keigwins and feel I am right in the middle of the pack.

I think about the things I learned in the Z2 C group class sessions all the time and it saved my ass a few times.

That being said...that was the long way of me saying you'll be fine in B- with Keigwins

 

[Pacific Track Time]

The big 3 have all been around for years providing excellent track days that have proven records of safety as well as fun and education. All have highly qualified staff that are on hand to help riders of all levels and they've been dedicated to providing great events in this area for many years. Make sure they all feel the support and loyalty they've shown everyone for years by attending their events. Stick with those 3 and honestly you can't go wrong.

I believe that each of the big 3 all have the staff and programs set up to handle all riders from first timers to experienced racers, the difference will be the staff themselves. Attend all 3 and see which group you feel your personality best meshes with and stick with them. You'll find that the group you feel most comfortable around will help to drastically increase your learning curve.

As far as groups go try to pay as little attention to the group name as possible and concentrate on what the actual group represents instead. It's important to check your ego at the door and ensure you are signed up for the right group that represents your riding goals and ability and not sign up for a group based on it's name

It doesn't matter if the groups are

A, B, C
1, 2, 3
A, B, B-
X, Y, Z

They all represent the same thing, they're just named differently.

With Pacific Track Time, the groups are broken down like this;

A Group - Racers and VERY experienced track riders. Those in this group will have a fast pace and understand that those around them will have that fast pace also

B Group - Riders who have done a fair amount of track days however are not ready to for the fast pace riding of the A group. They should understand that passing should and will be done leaving a large 6ft cushion for all riders around them.

C Group - Beginner and noncompetitive riders. These are riders who may be new to the track, have limited motorcycle riding experience and who would like to attend a track day at a noncompetitive and leisurely pace. Riders in this group should understand that any passes must and will be made leaving an 8ft cushion for other riders and must be done curiously for the other riders comfort level.


At the end of the day it's a track day and riders in all groups must ride accordingly. Track days are not for racing and never should be however it is important to make sure that the groups are separated so that everyone of all levels and ability have a place to ride.

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[Deftone]

AFM199 speaks the truth.

I've been doing trackdays for 10+ years, and ridden with Keigwins, Z2, PTT, Trackdaz, The Track Club, Fastrack riders....

I did Z2's C group last year to work on fundamentals, it's really good. I love the instruction in the B group as well. The instructors are 1st class, it's really a well run outfit.

Keigwin's is equally awesome in every way, they just don't have a C group novice school like Z2.

1st time at the track I'd go with Z2, but you really can't go wrong with either.