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Kid Stands Up to Lazy Teacher

i'm serious.

take the "packet", read it. do your homework. get good grades.
you don't need a teacher to learn.
i skipped half my classes, mainly showed up for tests, got great grades.

kid needs a teacher to make lessons entertaining, more personal?
he needs to get over himself. he isn't a unique cornflake with teachers catering to his every whim.
 
I still like him. I'm even more impressed that he went back to school after having tried dropping out and learning that wasn't going to get him anywhere.

Some people can be successful, they just need more resources and care to get there. Good for him for trying to get it.
 
mike23w said:
the kid is an idiot.

if i was his dad, i'd whup his ass and tell him to shut the fuck up.

it's not the teacher's job to get him excited.
if you need the teacher to get you motivated about your future, you deserve to work at mcdonalds as the clown you are.

if he was really smart, he'd have figured out the system, how to work it, how to get good grades, how to get laid and enjoy himself.

you can be creative in any environment, the trick is to do it within the confines of the school rules.
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Just because your teachers didn't give 2 fucks about you doesn't mean they all have to put in less than a modicum of effort because that "builds character." They get paid to teach, giving kids a packet isn't teaching, that's not a job. I could do that. Yeah, here's your packet, do your work, I'm not gonna do anything because if I try to get you excited I must be a bad teacher. Don't like it? Well you should have learned how to play the system at age 10 because nobody who doesn't try to be a self starter is gonna get ahead in life, little Billy. :rolleyes

As someone who is close with those who are very experienced in education, I will say that there are kids who are excited to learn and kids who don't know they are. If you say "fuck you" to every student like it's some kind of challenge you're just gonna alienate the latter group. They say "teaching hearts and minds" for a reason, because any jackoff can do a packet, their jobs are making you want to do it. Not everyone popped out the womb knowing what their entire future was gonna be like.

The whole "sit down shut up" method of teaching is farcical at best :thumbdown. Just look at Finland, where they make a personalized education plan for every student. They are whooping our asses and the rest of the world's at that.
 
There's nothing in that video that shows that kid is standing up to anything. It's just some kid complaining about his teacher

We forget these days all our schools performances at erased around tests,how kids do on tests. You don't have much time as a teache to get down with the kids and get into great discussions, free flowing and organic taks about the subject, you have to teach the test,because the test is all that matters. There's no time to really discuss anything because if you go off the approved syllabus you aren't teaching those kids how to pas that test, then you get downgraded and the school gets downgraded

High schools were not ever source sof philosophical discourse and dialectic, and its only getting worse because of our test oriented school system, that kills creativity,discussion, adaptation and investigation.

School is designed to do ONE thing, make you a nice little worker bee.
 
kevin 714 said:
School is designed to do ONE thing, make you a nice little worker bee.
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And this kid has a problem with that and he's making his voice heard... if you don't agree with him that's fine but he's doing more than complaining. If all he did was whine about the teacher, I'd understand, but he is saying how it ought to be. I'd consider that a moral argument.
 
kevin 714 said:
There's nothing in that video that shows that kid is standing up to anything. It's just some kid complaining about his teacher
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High schools were not ever source sof philosophical discourse and dialectic, and its only getting worse because of our test oriented school system, that kills creativity,discussion, adaptation and investigation.

School is designed to do ONE thing, make you a nice little worker bee.
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It sounds to me like he was standing up to that status quo. Teaching a packet/teaching a test, sound about the same to me.
 
mike23w said:
i'm serious.

take the "packet", read it. do your homework. get good grades.
you don't need a teacher to learn.
i skipped half my classes, mainly showed up for tests, got great grades.

kid needs a teacher to make lessons entertaining, more personal?
he needs to get over himself. he isn't a unique cornflake with teachers catering to his every whim.
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That is pretty fucking lame.
 
Let's not gloss over the fact that this kid is (more than likely) in a continuation school class. He admitted missing a year of school in the video interview, so I think my assumption is good.

If you don't know what continuation school is, it is a classroom full of "special ones" that couldn't for various reasons hack their way through a normal 4 year high school calendar. Each individual student will be at a different progression point in attaining the proper amount of credits to finish high school. I don't see how the teacher could do a guided classroom discussion with the entire class to "motivate" since everyone is supposed to be busy accomplishing their own packets, but perhaps there is an opportunity somehow(?)

I don't condone the teacher in the video not making some effort to teach the kids, however I'm a realist so you're gonna get what you get in certain job roles/positions. But to look at the big picture, I want our most stellar and motivated teachers teaching the best, most motivated students. Because why should the hardest working and most gifted students get the shaft out of the best teachers because they need someone "better" for the students that at one point or could give a fuck less about school?

And while the kid has a point about certain kids not being motivated by their situation and needing the teacher to drag them up from the depths of it... welcome to the real world kid. While you whine and cry about how "no one's gonna motivate us" other kids will do work, overcome adversity and become successful, productive members of society. For those that choose not to do this, I'm sure it'll still be a few more years before WalMart replaces its greeters with robots.
 
^that

I'm all for a massive change in how our school is done but some kid bitching to a teacher is not an answer. And he wasn't sayinh much of actual substance.
 
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"You gotta take this job serious, this is the future of our nation." - Jeff Bliss


Under that same token Jeff, you gotta take your job as a student serious. You are the future of our nation. The fact that you are an 18 year old sophomore and are not self motivated or inspiring to your peers speaks volumes more than your pathetic rant.

Choosing to displace blame for your own shortcomings on the educational establishment shows that you lack character and have a long way to go to become a man that can stand on his own.

Many of your peers your age are going away to college, gainfully employed in real jobs, or serve with honor in our military forces. Your rant only gives another point of reference for unmotivated students in their race to the bottom.
 
Terminal G said:
That is pretty fucking lame.
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yeah, you're right.
it's lame for a kid to take responsibility for his own future.
it's much better to blame the school, blame the teacher, blame the parents.
blame everyone but the single person that can make a difference - the student.
every kid is special. it's never their fault.

here's a motivated kid from dubb's Big Wheel thread (the kid and his dad built a better Big Wheel for adults).
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how many remedial classes is this guy taking? i bet none.
you think he missed an entire year of school? i bet he hasn't.

night and day.

bliss is clearly a slacker. when the slacker complains, i tend to not take them seriously.
 
Strongly agree with the kid's message. Strongly disagree with the forum he used to convey his message.

I would rather see parents involved and address it at an administrative level. Perhaps a petition from students and parents of students addressing the issues to the school administration. The message is lost on its intended audience the way he addressed it.

But.... at least he WANTS to be inspired, so :thumbup
 
This is the problem I had with US schools when I moved here. Teachers would stand in front of the class and read us the fucking chapter. :wow The lazier fucks would do the round-robin thing, having the students read a paragraph each, while they did something else at their desk. Then the packets were passed out, or we were asked to answer questions 1 through 5, but skip 4b because "that'll be homework for the night".

That is not an education and when I had my mom and uncle, whom I was living with at the time, call the school and complain, I was suspended the very next week. The incident: I was sitting around bored as I was done with the BS in-class assignment and so I went up and asked my teacher if I could continue on to the next chapter. She said no, I said that's BS that I was being held behind. I was promptly suspended.

I don't know if the guy in the vid was just acting out or is genuinely upset. Either way it started a discussion about edgeyoumikayshun.

Continue to challenge and shit on the staus quo is what I say.
 
mike23w said:
yeah, you're right.
it's lame for a kid to take responsibility for his own future.
it's much better to blame the school, blame the teacher, blame the parents.
blame everyone but the single person that can make a difference - the student.
every kid is special. it's never their fault.

here's a motivated kid from dubb's Big Wheel thread (the kid and his dad built a better Big Wheel for adults).
[youtube]zjba0kW74MY[/youtube]
how many remedial classes is this guy taking? i bet none.
you think he missed an entire year of school? i bet he hasn't.

night and day.

bliss is clearly a slacker. when the slacker complains, i tend to not take them seriously.
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No. What is lame is thinking you can funnel a bunch of kids through a "get it, sit down, shut up, read this, take a test, and now get the fuck out" process is actually good for society.

I don't care about this (1) kid. Whether he is a slacker or not is irrelevant to the bigger picture.
 
I Think one of the biggest issue's in schools these days are that kids are Taught how to pass the STAR test for more than half the year and then after the test a lot of teachers use filler to get through the year.

My wife has taught 3rd through 5th grade for over 12 years now and every year its the same old thing. she tries to bring art into her rotation of subjects but is constantly met with disapproval from the higher ups at the school. she busts her ass on a daily basis to go above and beyond to make sure kids who cant even speak english will have the skills to go on to middle school and succeed. whats the reward? parents who don't show up for conferences and having to pay 2000.00 a month in health insurance. I don't know why she ever goes back to her job day after day as she would make more money managing a starbucks.

And we all wonder why so many kids are not creative anymore? we teach kids to pass a test. a simple test that caters to the lowest performing students. we put more money into school sports programs and after school programs to babysit kids who's parents don't want to pick them up or can't pick them up till 6.
I don't say these things strictly from the perspective of the spouse of a teacher as I also have 2 sons in school. one in middle school and one in elementary school. my 6th grader is currently taking 8th grade honors math as well as higher level English and history. He is ranked #6 in his school academically and 12th in the district on the other hand my 3rd grader struggles through school on a daily basis.

the kid in the video might have been wrong to do what he did the way he did it but at what point are kids going to stand up for themselves when faced with mediocre teachers? better yet when will parents actually stand up for their kids in the same situation?:x
 
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