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Marines and motorcycles = crashes?

I agree with Zerox. ThoughTestosterone may last longer then this young years.
If roadrash would cause ( being paralized ) on arms or legs or hands.I think many would think twice before jumping on a bike and push and challenge the physics or their own skills, without decent protection.
Of course we all have our body only once anyhow.Right ?

So why not push it for NO RETURN ? Being a Marine ( ARMY ), may contribute somehow for NO RETURN anyway.
Pretty pathetic isn'it .
 
Yeah, that's a good idea:rolleyes seeing how "Superbikes" presents such a stellar safety image to/of the motorcycle world.
You know, I didn't want to talk trash, but we definately see them breaking the law and setting the wrong example more often than the right. I agree with you there.


That's why they always call on us for help and hand-me-down equipment? ;) :twofinger

And you get to brag about it later, what does that tell you? :twofinger




I've never been in combat myself, but I could only imagine after spending time in a place where you may run over an IED any minute could put you into a state of living being the edge. Putting a bike to work on the freeway may be one of many side-effects from constant exposure to potential death at the hands of an object that you can't even shot at. You're trained to kill your enemy. And here you face bombs in the road? Crazy...

As N10 said, they should have mandatory shrink therapy after returning home.
 
Where is the call for marines to pull out of motorcycles?
 
Time for johnny-jarhead to chime in :twofinger

I bought my first bike while in the corps. Yeah I'm old, it was a 83' interceptor. They had the rider safty class back then. Unlike what I'm reading, I was one of the smarter Jarheads. I found a sweat twisty to learn how to ride fast on. Everyday going a bit faster. By 85' you had FZ's & Ninja's and I did see guys who where riding faster than thier skills. WHATS NEW? I still see that every day on my commute. I'm not going to say that I never pulled any dumb ass stunts. Did being a Marine make this happen? Give me a break! This is 99% young dumb ass moves.
 
From Larry Shaughnessy
CNN Pentagon Producer


QUANTICO, Virginia (CNN) -- Motorcycle accidents have killed more Marines in the past 12 months than enemy fire in Iraq, a rate that's so alarming it has prompted top brass to call a meeting to address the issue, officials say.


Despite crashes, Gunnery Sgt. Art Tucker rides a sport motorcycle. "I enjoy it. ... It relaxes me," he says.

Twenty-five Marines have died in motorcycle crashes since last November -- all but one of them involving sport bikes that can reach speeds of well over 100 mph, according to Marine officials. In that same period, 20 Marines have been killed in action in Iraq.

The 25 deaths are the highest motorcycle death toll ever for the Marine Corps.

Gen. James Amos, the assistant commandant of the Marine Corps, told CNN that commanders are trying to drill down on what "we need to do to help our Marines survive on these sport bikes."

"The Marines are very serious about it," he said. Watch these aren't your father's Harleys »

Marine Gunnery Sgt. Art Tucker knows all too well about the dangers of sport bikes. An owner of a Kawasaki Ninja, Tucker has had two crashes, and the second one nearly killed him.

"I sustained a broken collar bone, I tore the shoulder out of the socket, I tore three ligaments in the shoulder, the rotator cuff, I broke three vertebrae," said Tucker, a drill instructor for new officers.

"The worst was a head injury I received: a bruised brain. And it caused hemorrhaging, and from that I had partial paralysis of the left leg, full paralysis of the left foot and toes, and that was for approximately six months."

Amos said he and other top Marine officials will spend half the day Monday "focusing on nothing but motorcycle issues." The commandant of the Marine Corps, Gen. James Conway, and other senior leadership will attend the meeting at the Quantico, Virginia, Marine base, he said.

About 18,000 of the nearly 200,000 Marines are believed to own motorcycles, Amos said.

The Marines have taken some measures. The Marine Corps has had a long-standing policy for all Marines who ride motorcycles to take a mandatory basic riding course. More recently, it added a second training course specifically designed to train Marines who ride sport bikes.

Any Marine caught riding, even on leave, without going through the training courses faces Marine Corps punishment, officials say.

On a recent day at the Quantico training track, Marines whizzed by on their bikes.

"I think the basic rider course has been great," said Cpl. Austin Oakley. "Here, they put you in situations you want to be wary of out in that open road."

Oakley said he recently returned to the United States from Japan, and he immediately jumped at the chance to buy a sport bike. He said it's not uncommon for Marines to have motorcycle clubs within their units.

"We'll go out on rides together. Fridays for lunchtime, we'll all meet up and go to lunch," Oakley said. "When I get on my motorcycle, it's me and the motorcycle. I don't need to go fast. I don't need to do anything like that. It's just being free."

The rise in motorcycle deaths isn't confined to Marines. The Navy says it's had 33 deaths on motorcycles over the past 12 months -- a 65 percent jump from the previous time period. And authorities say motorcycle deaths have been a problem in the civilian world, too.

Military officials say they're not sure why the deaths are on the rise. They initially believed the accidents might involve mostly young Marines and sailors around 18 or 19 years old. But Navy statistics show that five of the victims were 25, the most prevalent of any age involved in the crashes. And two 40-year-old sailors were killed in motorcycle crashes.

Gen. Amos said the Marines have seen a similar trend.

But he says the new training seems to be working: Of the 300 young men and women who have gone through the sport-bike course, only three have had accidents.

The safety course instructors said some Marines who go through the training decide the sport bike is not for them.


But even some Marines who've survived past crashes still want to ride again, even after they get the new training.

"I enjoy it," said Tucker. "I can actually get on my motorcycle and ride, and it's just like if I were to do bowling or rock climbing or scuba diving. It's something for me. It relaxes me."
 
WHATS NEW? I still see that every day on my commute..... Did being a Marine make this happen? Give me a break! This is 99% young dumb ass moves.

Exactly. The reason for the proportion of crashes is that the majority of servicemen (and women) are in the target demographic of serious motorcycle crashes in the non-military community. Young, gung-ho, and usually completely unaware of how much a motorcycle accident can hurt.

I believe that I stated this in my previous posting, but it bears repeating.
 
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