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medical marijuana card = can't buy a gun

juha_teuvonnen said:
I don't think that having habitual MJ users handle firearms is a good idea. The same for habitual alcoholics.
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This is based on your extensive psychology background? Or just conjecture? A lot of my pot head friends are perfectly responsible. Then again, a lot of them are not responsible. None of them are violent or unpredictable. A lot of my sober acquaintances are the stupidest and dangerous minded people I know.
Based on my experience, there are a lot more dangerous sober people out there. I throw in the alcoholics with the sober. Pot heads and drinkers don't show even remotely close personality traits except for signs of addiction.
 
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Wormwood said:
"There just trying to take our guns"

Sillyness.

This is a policy statement from the folks who continue to say pot is a Class 1 in league with heroin. I see no enforcement in the future, simply a conformation of the current policies.

What I do not like is the potential liability questions a licensed seller must face based on silly politics.
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Do you even know what the schedule 1 (yes that is the proper terminology) designation means? It does not mean it is like heroin, it is classified like heroin just like many other drugs.

Schedule 1 = high potential for abuse, no recognized medical use.

Now the no recognized medical use can be argued, but stop trying to make the erroneous comparison to heroin.:rolleyes
 
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Var said:
Pot heads and drinkers don't show even remotely close personality traits except for signs of addiction.
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Since when did showing signs of addiction make you a responsible adult?

I dont even care if people smoke pot or drink, but it seems kind of funny that we are even debating whether it is a good idea to allow people who abuse controlled substances to be allowed to own firearms. Regardless of whether they are "legal" substances or not....
 
Mr.Furious said:
Since when did showing signs of addiction make you a responsible adult?

I dont even care if people smoke pot or drink, but it seems kind of funny that we are even debating whether it is a good idea to allow people who abuse controlled substances to be allowed to own firearms. Regardless of whether they are "legal" substances or not....
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But pot is gooood and harmless, maaaan
 
Mr.Furious said:
Since when did showing signs of addiction make you a responsible adult?

I dont even care if people smoke pot or drink, but it seems kind of funny that we are even debating whether it is a good idea to allow people who abuse controlled substances to be allowed to own firearms. Regardless of whether they are "legal" substances or not....
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I agree. We shouldn't even be debating taking 2nd amendment rights from people
 
No biggie, I'll buy guns for my friend and he can buy me weed.
 
byke said:
No biggie, I'll buy guns for my friend and he can buy me weed.
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You know that straw purchase is a federal crime? Or MJ killed too much of your brain?
 
You live in Paradise, you're like the one guy in town who doesn't like weed and guns.
 
RRR70 said:
You know that straw purchase is a federal crime? Or MJ killed too much of your brain?
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I live in California and even Mr. O says he has no interest in prosecuting for non-cartel quantities. I'll play dumb and say that my gubmint confused my ethics, the judge might not agree, but a dozen idiots off the street (who probably smoke weed) should have no trouble buying it.
 
byke said:
I live in California and even Mr. O says he has no interest in prosecuting for non-cartel quantities. I'll play dumb and say that my gubmint confused my ethics, the judge might not agree, but a dozen idiots off the street (who probably smoke weed) should have no trouble buying it.
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I don't give a shit what will happen with you in court, but if you try to pull this shit in my store, your ass will fly out of the door faster than you can say "huh".
 
For every store that boots a person 'like me', there are ten greedy hoes in line to take their place. Just to be clear, this law doesn't actually apply to me (don't smoke and don't have a card) and I wouldn't actually trade weed for guns, or vice versa lol. However, I love guns, I love the constitution, I feel that it's your god given right to smoke weed in the privacy in your own home if you want to and I don't feel that one of those things should necessarily influence the other.
 
byke said:
However, I love guns, I love the constitution, I feel that it's your god given right to smoke weed in the privacy in your own home if you want to and I don't feel that one of those things should necessarily influence the other.
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Nobody gives a damn what you do in the privacy of your own home.

The whole moral of the story is don't be the idiot who gets an mj card and then later cries that he can't buy guns.
 
Shotline said:
Do you even know what the schedule 1 (yes that is the proper terminology) designation means? It does not mean it is like heroin, it is classified like heroin just like many other drugs.

Schedule 1 = high potential for abuse, no recognized medical use.

Now the no recognized medical use can be argued, but stop trying to make the erroneous comparison to heroin.:rolleyes
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I know exactly what it means,

We make the same point (except for the sarcasm) but somehow you missed mine. :laughing
 
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It's another hypocritical set of laws that are designed to turn you into a criminal, since you'd have to buy on the 'streets' now. It's as if the feds are punishing California citizens because they're too big a pussy to tackle California's 'rebellious' weed laws. It doesn't really matter, none of us should own guns that the government knows about anyway.
 
stupidity of people who get mj cards aside, this is some fucked-up gubmint-overreach shit. Notice how it only goes after those who have tried to go legit in regard to their pot use.

Never, if you can help it, get yourself in a database, kiddies. Thing is that there are fewer and fewer ways you can help it, these days.
 
there's a small problem with the original title and the reality of the legislation. The legislation does not contain language that I can find that says the MJ card owner is penalized for purchasing a firearm. Only the dealer is penalized for selling. It also is deliberately ambiguous in that it does not give amnesty to ANY prescription. There is actually no penalty for MJ owners buying or attempting to buy. If this legislation was targetted at MJ users, it would explicitly punish the buyer. This clearly demonstrates the intent is to create problems and help shut down gun sellers. MJ cardholders are actually the least affected group and are in no way singled out or separated from anyone on any medication that one could be "under the influence" of.

But it does allow the real reason and problem with the law to get snowed under a less critical controversy. Propaganda win.

byke said:
No biggie, I'll buy guns for my friend and he can buy me weed.
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you should be able to either grow your own or manufacture your own, do the one you're good at and have friends that are good at the other. :thumbup
 
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