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More Time To Get Fit - 2025

Welp, here's my setback.

I crashed out of 2nd in my local MTB series. I took 1min off my PR lap time from last month and then was holding great pace to pass and pull away from 3rd. Maybe I was on track to finish the 6 lap race ~8min faster. But I lost the front on an off-camber section and didn't have enough time to pull the shoulder in.

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I havent heard from Ortho yet. I suspect they will say surgery isn't needed and to wait 6-12wks. I agree on 'no surgery', but I'll definitely be back on the bike in 2-3weeks 😄 Sea Otter (tons of bicycle races at Laguna Seca) is only 5.5wks away.
 
There are some good shoulder braces that will support your collar bone. Unfortunately, I think you're going to find out just how much force you actually put on your shoulders and how important the collar bone is in those dynamics.

I know that roadracers just get a plate put in and are back on the bike in a couple days to avoid losing too much in their standings.
 
Damn. What tires and pressure were you running? Getting hurt really blows. I think you have a really exciting season coming up Robert. I hope this won't set you back too much.
 
stangmx13 said:
Welp, here's my setback.

I crashed out of 2nd in my local MTB series. I took 1min off my PR lap time from last month and then was holding great pace to pass and pull away from 3rd. Maybe I was on track to finish the 6 lap race ~8min faster. But I lost the front on an off-camber section and didn't have enough time to pull the shoulder in.

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I havent heard from Ortho yet. I suspect they will say surgery isn't needed and to wait 6-12wks. I agree on 'no surgery', but I'll definitely be back on the bike in 2-3weeks 😄 Sea Otter (tons of bicycle races at Laguna Seca) is only 5.5wks away.
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clavicles are stupid. :x

in all seriousness, i am sorry to read about your injury. i hope that your excellent overall health helps you recover rapidly.

#crashingsucks
 
Mike95060 said:
Damn. What tires and pressure were you running? Getting hurt really blows. I think you have a really exciting season coming up Robert. I hope this won't set you back too much.
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Schwalbe Ray/Ralph combo in 2.35/2.25 at 16/19psi. Lots of people love and recommend this combo. But I am not friends w the front tire. I may buy a Rocket Ron.

SoCal is of course tons of lose over hard and I am not a fan. I know my skills need work. I’m also now looking into more optimizations like suspension. I got the fork done already - prob time to do the shock too.
 
stangmx13 said:
Welp, here's my setback.

I crashed out of 2nd in my local MTB series. I took 1min off my PR lap time from last month and then was holding great pace to pass and pull away from 3rd. Maybe I was on track to finish the 6 lap race ~8min faster. But I lost the front on an off-camber section and didn't have enough time to pull the shoulder in.

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I havent heard from Ortho yet. I suspect they will say surgery isn't needed and to wait 6-12wks. I agree on 'no surgery', but I'll definitely be back on the bike in 2-3weeks 😄 Sea Otter (tons of bicycle races at Laguna Seca) is only 5.5wks away.
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Dang, crashing really sucks! Sorry you are broken. Sometimes they have a nifty rolling screw too but hopefully because of the shape of your clavicle, it will mend on it’s own, alot of that hardware is removed eventually anyway. That A/C might be compromised due to clavicular alteration or ligamentous sprain. Rest up so the bone knits during immobility, sadly 6-10 weeks, less for super special people. Mineral nutrients and other stuff can help too. Heal up well.
 
Climber said:
There are some good shoulder braces that will support your collar bone. Unfortunately, I think you're going to find out just how much force you actually put on your shoulders and how important the collar bone is in those dynamics.

I know that roadracers just get a plate put in and are back on the bike in a couple days to avoid losing too much in their standings.
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Ya, the goal will be to do push ups before I get back on the MTB. I think it took 3wks after plating the other one. We’ll c how the non-plate goes.
 
easy wind said:
Dang, crashing really sucks! Sorry you are broken. Sometimes they have a nifty rolling screw too but hopefully because of the shape of your clavicle, it will mend on it’s own, alot of that hardware is removed eventually anyway. That A/C might be compromised due to clavicular alteration or ligamentous sprain. Rest up so the bone knits during immobility, sadly 6-10 weeks, less for super special people. Mineral nutrients and other stuff can help too. Heal up well.
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I did the other AC 2yrs ago and it hurt way more. So I’m hoping this one is still good.

Can you describe mineral nutrients? And what other stuff?
 
Surely there is a local provider who could work with you, reluctant to post and deleted reccs. Can PM me.
Hmm, I see Sandy Eggo, there is one provider in Encinitas called Elite Care who deals with sports injuries who is well regarded. Best of luck.
 
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Climber said:
There are some good shoulder braces that will support your collar bone. Unfortunately, I think you're going to find out just how much force you actually put on your shoulders and how important the collar bone is in those dynamics.

I know that roadracers just get a plate put in and are back on the bike in a couple days to avoid losing too much in their standings.
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Healing dependent. Rob's doesn't look horrible. I was plated and it took over 4 months before I was cleared to load weight onto it. But, mine was shattered in 7 places or so.

easy wind said:
Surely there is a local provider who could work with you, reluctant to post and deleted reccs. Can PM me.
Hmm, I see Sandy Eggo, there is one provider in Encinitas called Elite Care who deals with sports injuries who is well regarded. Best of luck.
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What kind of mineral nutrients? Peptides? I'm looking for a good naturalpath with sports emphasis in the BA/ Sac. Any req's?
 
Holeshot said:
Healing dependent. Rob's doesn't look horrible. I was plated and it took over 4 months before I was cleared to load weight onto it. But, mine was shattered in 7 places or so.
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You didn't do it by half measures, did you?

I remember when Haga shattered his collar bone on Friday and raced on Sunday with plates holding it together. He was probably the toughest racer I've ever seen.
 
Mine never hurt, which was odd. Likely because bones were separated w/ shattered pieces floating.
 
I did an hour on the trainer today. Pain is about 1/10 on the bike, maybe 3/10 when I switch positions. It hurts more to put socks on lol. Not bad for day 5 after the break. The bone feels connected already and the swelling is still going down daily. Now let’s c if I’m sore tmrw or something 😅

I have my bone healing cocktail going now. Whey, collagen (also protein), vitamin C & D, a joint health pill w zinc, and plenty of dairy for calcium. If I’m good in a few weeks, we can enjoy the confirmation bias lol.
 
@stangmx13 you're a crazy man beast and i’m glad you’re feeling better. hopefully your nutritional choices help accelerate your healing. don’t forget that time in sunlight helps with calcium absorption and that leafy greens have lots of calcium, too. :love
 
two wheel tramp said:
@stangmx13 you're a crazy man beast and i’m glad you’re feeling better. hopefully your nutritional choices help accelerate your healing. don’t forget that time in sunlight helps with calcium absorption and that leafy greens have lots of calcium, too. :love
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That reminds me, the Vit K in some dark greens like kale and broccoli could be good too.

But no spinach. Spinach has plenty of oxalic acid which binds to calcium and ruins your body’s ability to absorb the calcium. No soy or almonds for the same reason.
 
What would you all say is your preferred time of day for physical activity? I've heard that morning workouts can be more effective but I just cannot muster the energy to wake up that early before work, so I tend to be an afternoon/night owl gym/poolrat.
 
stangmx13 said:
That reminds me, the Vit K in some dark greens like kale and broccoli could be good too.

But no spinach. Spinach has plenty of oxalic acid which binds to calcium and ruins your body’s ability to absorb the calcium. No soy or almonds for the same reason.
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Oh, that is good to know about spinach. Glad I have eaten kale and chard instead. We have been eating the best diet here. I help with some cooking because I can prep and season, and she does the rest. My hostess is also a fantastic cook— we eat lots of high fiber, lean protein goodness. I feel like I have been a hungry, hungry hippo and a voracious appetite. Last night I went down an internet rabbit hole and all I came back with was "now is not the time to worry about weight loss" but also we need 15-20 calories per pound of current body weight to fuel recovery. :wow LINK
 
stangmx13 said:
I did an hour on the trainer today. Pain is about 1/10 on the bike, maybe 3/10 when I switch positions. It hurts more to put socks on lol. Not bad for day 5 after the break. The bone feels connected already and the swelling is still going down daily. Now let’s c if I’m sore tmrw or something 😅

I have my bone healing cocktail going now. Whey, collagen (also protein), vitamin C & D, a joint health pill w zinc, and plenty of dairy for calcium. If I’m good in a few weeks, we can enjoy the confirmation bias lol.
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get well soon robert and eat lots of beef with fat, ribeyes are the best and has everything a healing body needs :thumbup
 
two wheel tramp said:
Oh, that is good to know about spinach. Glad I have eaten kale and chard instead. We have been eating the best diet here. I help with some cooking because I can prep and season, and she does the rest. My hostess is also a fantastic cook— we eat lots of high fiber, lean protein goodness. I feel like I have been a hungry, hungry hippo and a voracious appetite. Last night I went down an internet rabbit hole and all I came back with was "now is not the time to worry about weight loss" but also we need 15-20 calories per pound of current body weight to fuel recovery. :wow LINK
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That might be a shit ton of calories. My BMR (base metabolic rate) is only 11 Cal/lbs. 15-20 Cal/lbs is 36-82% more calories. I think we need another source to confirm such a large suggestion. I agree with the sentiment though. I'd much rather end up with a healed bone and a few pounds than a not-healed bone.
 
stangmx13 said:
That might be a shit ton of calories. My BMR (base metabolic rate) is only 11 Cal/lbs. 15-20 Cal/lbs is 36-82% more calories. I think we need another source to confirm such a large suggestion. I agree with the sentiment though. I'd much rather end up with a healed bone and a few pounds than a not-healed bone.
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i am not using it as permission to go hog wild (pun intended). another blog from surgeon quotes the same numbers:
boop and another from a hospital. boop x 2

what seems important is the quality of the food. lots of protein and nutrient dense food. make of that what you will but it sounds like staying well hydrated and nourished helps prevent muscle loss during recovery.
 
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