All nine world titles? Every single win? Yeah, skill is over rated it's really all about luck
its better to be lucky than good
in rossi's case, he has both
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its better to be lucky than good
in rossi's case, he has both
you dont remember doonington where he was booed by the brits and got al fucking butt hurt about it.
or how bitchy he got in 2007 when he was asked about the ducs power all the time.
i wasnt talking about bike issues complaints.
I also never said caseys crashing was entirely him, thats why I wrote "so far".
dude your hard on for stoner this year is fucking crazy lol do you jack-sprat off to him?
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I agree with others who disagree with this statement.
Most of his injuries have been to his ankles, hands, neck and now collarbone. Even then, you don't know how much weight training would actually add in terms of bone density, so you can't reasonably say that it's entirely his fault.
I completely agree he should try.
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And those who do it and hurt themselves never win titles.
The only thing about Casey I didn't like was how cocky he got after winning the title however many years back. I don't remember the details, but recall him saying something about what Rossi's excuse is next year when he switched tires (that didn't fall apart) and didn't win. His head got a bit too big.
I think Lorenzo tries too hard. His off-track antics make him seem like Rossi wannabe and doesn't come off naturally.
I don't think telling it how it is makes you a whiner, Edwards tells it how it is but doesn't come off that way (usually).
Dani does need to bulk up. Hit the gym, eat more, put on some muscle. Will help prevent future injuries.
I think Lorenzo tries too hard. His off-track antics make him seem like Rossi wannabe and doesn't come off naturally.
I don't think telling it how it is makes you a whiner, Edwards tells it how it is but doesn't come off that way (usually).
Dani does need to bulk up. Hit the gym, eat more, put on some muscle. Will help prevent future injuries.
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Gotta be a little cocky to be a champion.
Look at Vale and Jorge, they are completely arrogant and get the worst princess complexes you've ever seen. I really am not a Rossi fan. I think he is probably the most two faced person in the paddock and wish that more fans would see that he uses his clout and influence to win championships. His talent isn't as far reaching as people would believe either.
Look at Vale and Jorge, they are completely arrogant and get the worst princess complexes you've ever seen. I really am not a Rossi fan. I think he is probably the most two faced person in the paddock and wish that more fans would see that he uses his clout and influence to win championships. His talent isn't as far reaching as people would believe either.
All nine world titles? Every single win? Yeah, skill is over rated it's really all about luck
What prevented him from getting ass packed and injured like other riders? Luck.
What allowed him to get the best crew chief in the paddock? Luck.
What allowed him to get the skill he has in the first place? Many others have tried with all their might to be as skilled as he is. Luck.
What allowed him to get the best bike on the grid? Luck.
What allowed him to be born Italian with a father who was a racer with connections? Luck.
What stopped him from being killed in a car/plane/boat/bus/train crash while on the way to a race? Luck.
What stopped him from being born with a neuromuscular disease? Luck.
I could go on and on, the point being, every good thing in life is really created through a series of lucky conditions or events. The ego wishes to believe that is entirely do to us.
You seem to forget that Rossi left Honda because they thought it was all the bike.....and he didn't mind telling all the press about it.or how bitchy he got in 2007 when he was asked about the ducs power all the time.
dude your hard on for stoner this year is fucking crazy lol do you jack-sprat off to him?
I also defended Jorge last year when everyone was bagging on him, I'm an equal opportunity fanboy.
If you can reasonably argue against it, I'd be happy to listen. You could even PM me so we don't have to jack this thread.
Not worth it because no matter what a person does, how hard they work, prepare, however many hoops they jump through, how much time they put in or dues they pay, you'll just attribute it to them being lucky that _______ came around and has nothing to do with everything the person did to get where they are.
But in this case I'll agree with your theory. Lorenzo won the championship out of pure luck that Rossi and Pedro crashed out with injuries. If it wasn't for their bad luck, he may not have won. And he was lucky to get on the best bike in the paddock instead of on some other bike that wouldn't have brought him such a lucky championship
But in this case I'll agree with your theory. Lorenzo won the championship out of pure luck that Rossi and Pedro crashed out with injuries. If it wasn't for their bad luck, he may not have won. And he was lucky to get on the best bike in the paddock instead of on some other bike that wouldn't have brought him such a lucky championship
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Being fast enough to get away from those fuckers like DePuniet before they get a chance to.
A good manager.
Hard work, mindset, genetics, timing.
He often didn't, he was capable of communicating with his team in a manner to develop a bike so he could get the most out of it.
Sperm and Egg?
A good driver? You know, I don't consider the fact that I haven't been struck by lightening LUCKY. I don't put myself in a situation where I can, therefor I haven't... it has nothing to do with luck. The same can be said for traveling.
Genetics. Which have nothing to do with luck. Just because you may or may not have control over something doesn't mean it's "luck." Luck is rolling 7's 10 times in a row at the Craps table. Luck isn't having brown hair.
PS: I'm not a Rossi fan, but I can still appreciate his talent and what he's accomplished.
actually dood luck is only a few of these. primarily hs birth, and to whom.
all those other things really arent luck
him getting god bikes has never been luck. not once
How do genetics have nothing to do with luck? So you're saying only bad drivers get killed in car accidents? Explain Mike Hailwood then.
Perhaps you don't understand the way I'm using the word.
So he chose the parents he was born to? They weren't a fortunate happenstance totally outside of his control?
no i was saying those are the luck ones.
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If your definition of LUCK is "success" then yes, I guess we're all lucky. I guess I'm lucky that I got a paycheck yesterday, nevermind the fact that I worked for it.
My last comment on the whole luck issue. Does it only apply to good situations or bad as well?
You're saying if I get to my destination safely it is due to luck.
What if I go out to the bar, get hammered, get in my car and drive completely trashed, crash and die? Is that due to bad luck? Cause I wouldn't call that luck, I would call it making it happen and having absolutely nothing to do with luck.
If you don't call it luck either, then good things can't only be due to luck cause everything goes both ways, not just one.
You're saying if I get to my destination safely it is due to luck.
What if I go out to the bar, get hammered, get in my car and drive completely trashed, crash and die? Is that due to bad luck? Cause I wouldn't call that luck, I would call it making it happen and having absolutely nothing to do with luck.
If you don't call it luck either, then good things can't only be due to luck cause everything goes both ways, not just one.
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Everybody's got a breaking point. Don't forget that for all of Stoner's racing prowess, he's still very much a young man. Most of the front-runners are.
IF I was Stoner, having raced nearly all of my life, and without a doubt having earned my spot in the premier class, and everbody and their mother discounts my accomplishments in GP solely on a bike or the kind of tires, I'd be pretty fucking pissed too.
Sure I could handle it better and learn tact, but maybe I just haven't grown into it yet.
Or I could just speak my mind and tell everyone to "fuck off, ride the damn bike and tires yourself and tell me if it really is the bike or the tires."
Much respect to Rossi and Hayden and what they (or one of them) is doing to progress on the Ducati, but to this day, nobody's been able to just jump on that damn thing and start winning like Stoner.
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