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Not very excited to pay $160 to see who has the fastest Ducati and hear endless droning about Mark Marquez. Any info on viewing options is appreciated.
MotoGP 2024 Round 1 - Qatar March 8-10
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TRU is on channel 274 I think. It was showing to be on when I went to work this AM and have it recorded. Set for Sunday too, although I said record the series and Sunday had to be restored. Noted a replay on Tuesday I think.
Take a look boys.
Solid race.
Rookie did well.
OG Champ did well.
One Ape rocked.
Only one Duc on the podium and that would be the dude I chose in the poll.
Hope Digi is OK.
No Honda's or Yamaha's in the points.
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TRU is on channel 274 I think. It was showing to be on when I went to work this AM and have it recorded. Set for Sunday too, although I said record the series and Sunday had to be restored. Noted a replay on Tuesday I think.
Take a look boys.
Solid race.
Rookie did well.
OG Champ did well.
One Ape rocked.
Only one Duc on the podium and that would be the dude I chose in the poll.
Hope Digi is OK.
No Honda's or Yamaha's in the points.
Thanks Budman!
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those pics are super awesome!
had fun rooting for KTM/GasGas and rooting against Mr #89 this weekend—not sure what I have against Mr Martín, perhaps he’ll grow on me. for example I’d have loved to see Mr Márquez beat Mr Martín to the podium.
congratulations to Mr Bagnaia.
artythink the switch to Pirelli delivered some good Moto2 racing …
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Pecco rode an awesome race. His #1 livery is stunning under the lights..!!
I felt the rookie boy would slide back because of his tires going off, but he sure did show that he has volumes of talent and rode awesome.
Binder with a good weekend. KTM with two P2's is a good start even with Mr. Miller's bad luck.
MM is coming.. solid weekend on his Ducati debut.
Martin had a solid showing for sure.
I expected more from Aleix and hoped to see another podium, but not in the cards.
Hope to see the Japanese bikes improve more and see Fabio and Alex get jiggity.
I felt the rookie boy would slide back because of his tires going off, but he sure did show that he has volumes of talent and rode awesome.
Binder with a good weekend. KTM with two P2's is a good start even with Mr. Miller's bad luck.
MM is coming.. solid weekend on his Ducati debut.
Martin had a solid showing for sure.
I expected more from Aleix and hoped to see another podium, but not in the cards.
Hope to see the Japanese bikes improve more and see Fabio and Alex get jiggity.
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^^
and how much fun is Mr Alonso to watch in Moto3?arty
trying to figure out if his CFMoto racebike is a KTM, or if it’s a unique CFMoto factory engine?
edit—here’s the answer, I guess:
and how much fun is Mr Alonso to watch in Moto3?
artytrying to figure out if his CFMoto racebike is a KTM, or if it’s a unique CFMoto factory engine?
edit—here’s the answer, I guess:
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I'm with Budman, great showing for MM93, he will be a factor this year in the championship.
Go Jorge!
Binder, just wow, so neat to see him on the podium.
And nice to see the results spread across the spectrum. My head tells me this is going to be Quartararo's last year with Yamaha. They talked about improving the bike but it's still a pile. And he's running out of years of youth, I know all about that. I saw my first Moto Grand Prix in 1961.
Go Jorge!
Binder, just wow, so neat to see him on the podium.
And nice to see the results spread across the spectrum. My head tells me this is going to be Quartararo's last year with Yamaha. They talked about improving the bike but it's still a pile. And he's running out of years of youth, I know all about that. I saw my first Moto Grand Prix in 1961.
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Matt Oxley takes a closer look into Yamaha's problems...
Zero GP Wins, Fourth In Constructors Championship
"Yamaha last won the MotoGP title in 2021, with Fabio Quartararo. Since
then life has been grim for the Japanese manufacturer, which scored
its last race win in June, 2022. Last season was the first since 2003
that the YZR-Ml didn't win a single race."
Can Yamaha turn it around for 2024? Much will depend on the work of
former Ferrari Formula l engine designed by Luca Marmorini, who has been
building new YZR-Ml engines for a year or so. His first version,
tested at Misano in September, didn't impress Quartararo, who's been
told the final 2024 spec, to be tested at Sepang in February, will be
a major step forward."
"However, even if Marmorini's engines do make more horsepower it's
almost impossible to get the same amount of power from an Inline-4
engine as a V4. And if the bike doesn't have lots of power it's
impossible to run lots of aerodynamic downforce, so it'll have more
wheelies, so acceleration suffers even more."
"For this reason our vision has changed," says Quartararo's Crew Chief
Diego Gubellini. "We want to improve in many areas, not only power. We
are also working very hard on aero to improve turning and to reduce
wheelies and drag [tricky because these factors are mutually
exclusive]. Also, we are working on the chassis to improve turning and
traction. So our picture is that we need a small step in every area to
put everything together and generate a big global effect on the
performance."
"Another YZR-Ml issue is that all its rivals are V4s, which use different
cornering lines, which usually puts them in Quartararo's way, so he can't
use all his speed."
"When I ride alone I can use my riding style," says Quartararo, who
rode heroically through most of 2023. "But when I'm behind I ride
totally differently to basically all the other bikes."
"The only time the Frenchman can overtake is at the end of races, not
because he's better with used tires, but because he's a stronger
rider, so he can maintain his focus and therefore speed longer. "By
the end of races most riders drop their rhythm by maybe 1.5 seconds
from their qualifying speed," adds Gubellini. "There are very few
riders who are, let's say, on another level, who drop only
half-a-second."
Arguably Yamaha's biggest problem is qualifying, because riders have
little chance if they're not on the front two rows- and last season
Quartararo only qualified in the top six twice! "In qualifying the
rider extracts everything from the bike, so your time-attack
performance is limited by bike performance," says Gubellini."
"Quartararo won't test his 2024 engine until Sepang but at least he
liked the new aero he tried in the Valencia tests-an Aprilia-style
front wing and KTM-style seat aero. "The new aero gives less wheelie,"
he said. "But we need to make it help the bike turn better."
"Yamaha has a huge amount of work ahead. And if the latest improvements
don't put the YZR-Ml back on top, what are the factory's choices:
Build a V4 or quit?"
Zero GP Wins, Fourth In Constructors Championship
"Yamaha last won the MotoGP title in 2021, with Fabio Quartararo. Since
then life has been grim for the Japanese manufacturer, which scored
its last race win in June, 2022. Last season was the first since 2003
that the YZR-Ml didn't win a single race."
Can Yamaha turn it around for 2024? Much will depend on the work of
former Ferrari Formula l engine designed by Luca Marmorini, who has been
building new YZR-Ml engines for a year or so. His first version,
tested at Misano in September, didn't impress Quartararo, who's been
told the final 2024 spec, to be tested at Sepang in February, will be
a major step forward."
"However, even if Marmorini's engines do make more horsepower it's
almost impossible to get the same amount of power from an Inline-4
engine as a V4. And if the bike doesn't have lots of power it's
impossible to run lots of aerodynamic downforce, so it'll have more
wheelies, so acceleration suffers even more."
"For this reason our vision has changed," says Quartararo's Crew Chief
Diego Gubellini. "We want to improve in many areas, not only power. We
are also working very hard on aero to improve turning and to reduce
wheelies and drag [tricky because these factors are mutually
exclusive]. Also, we are working on the chassis to improve turning and
traction. So our picture is that we need a small step in every area to
put everything together and generate a big global effect on the
performance."
"Another YZR-Ml issue is that all its rivals are V4s, which use different
cornering lines, which usually puts them in Quartararo's way, so he can't
use all his speed."
"When I ride alone I can use my riding style," says Quartararo, who
rode heroically through most of 2023. "But when I'm behind I ride
totally differently to basically all the other bikes."
"The only time the Frenchman can overtake is at the end of races, not
because he's better with used tires, but because he's a stronger
rider, so he can maintain his focus and therefore speed longer. "By
the end of races most riders drop their rhythm by maybe 1.5 seconds
from their qualifying speed," adds Gubellini. "There are very few
riders who are, let's say, on another level, who drop only
half-a-second."
Arguably Yamaha's biggest problem is qualifying, because riders have
little chance if they're not on the front two rows- and last season
Quartararo only qualified in the top six twice! "In qualifying the
rider extracts everything from the bike, so your time-attack
performance is limited by bike performance," says Gubellini."
"Quartararo won't test his 2024 engine until Sepang but at least he
liked the new aero he tried in the Valencia tests-an Aprilia-style
front wing and KTM-style seat aero. "The new aero gives less wheelie,"
he said. "But we need to make it help the bike turn better."
"Yamaha has a huge amount of work ahead. And if the latest improvements
don't put the YZR-Ml back on top, what are the factory's choices:
Build a V4 or quit?"
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Sportbiker
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Pedro recognized that he will learn more from the top 5 in 15 laps than by trying to save his tires. He is way wiser than his years!!
MM93 fared better than most expected in one of his least favorite tracks. He is going to be a pain in the GP24 party with his GP23 clunker so to speak.... What would Ducati do if their GP23 wins the world championship? LOL
MM93 fared better than most expected in one of his least favorite tracks. He is going to be a pain in the GP24 party with his GP23 clunker so to speak.... What would Ducati do if their GP23 wins the world championship? LOL
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Maybe so. In hindsight yup. Plus he got some valued time on some well worn tires. The young man is going to bring us some great entertainment for sure!
So will Marc...!