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NASCAR Driver Tony Stewart Runs Over a Guy

Yakoo752 said:
In the AFM, if 2-3 racers got into fisticuffs, would penalties be received? Would intentional contact on the track, in the hot pits, in the pits be enough to draw a penalty?
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No to the first question. No to the second question. No to the third question.
Those answers are based on each of those incidents happening with one specific rider and decisive action not being taken, on multiple occasions over more than one season.

I'd think the reverse would be true, but in the case, it wasn't. Bizarro world.
 
Holeshot said:
If no one owned their own cars, it'd be just like Nascar....
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I think you mean, "if everyone could have free cars whenever they wanted and there were no laws enforced when behind the wheel"..? Because there are looooooots of people who don't own their cars and still protect them for their indirect value.
 
Holeshot said:
No to the first question. No to the second question. No to the third question.
Those answers are based on each of those incidents happening with one specific rider and decisive action not being taken, on multiple occasions over more than one season.

I'd think the reverse would be true, but in the case, it wasn't. Bizarro world.
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I am totally confused by this statement...

the AFM has no problem fining someone over wheeling T5 thunderhill but would chose not to fine someone for intentional contact on track (I'm not talking semantics of rubbins racing here, I'm talking intentional ramming per se.)
 
Yes. Using the shit show debacle of what I'm thinking of, our disciplinary process was darn near ineffective. BTW, I've been taken out 6 times racing, losing two championships due to direct contact. half of those were mistakes or over aggressive riding. Others, were straight nurfing...and do you think any of those riders were ever talked to, received letters, etc?

Rubbing's racing...contact is racing. We deal with it (as racers). Most all racers won't complain, they'll just deal with it on track. Those who do complain rarely get any satisfaction, that I see (sometimes for selfish satisfaction and other times, equality).
 
Tony's involvement in Sunday night's post race festivities would not warrant much of a discussion without the Ward incident.

A fistfight put NASCAR on the national map decades ago. I doubt anybody counting the money loses sleep over them now.
 
don't worry, tony...we know what you did.

http://www.espn.com/racing/nascar/s...ly-kevin-ward-jr-responds-tony-stewart-motion
Stewart confessed that he did not need to throttle his car to make it turn," Ward's family said in its response, citing a Stewart deposition. "Anticipating the impact, Ward Jr. put his hands up in a defensive position and desperately scrambled to get out of the way. ... Based on the evidence and reasonable inferences drawn therefrom, Stewart either intentionally hit Ward Jr. with his car or intended to execute a reckless maneuver in an effort to scare or humiliate Ward Jr....Although Stewart is a highly skilled driver who easily could have avoided killing Ward Jr., he also has a storied history of violence both on and off of the track...
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Ward did it to himself. Anyone who's crashed a motorcycle on the track knows the first thing you do immediately is get clear of the track. You NEVER walk towards the racing line.
 
Holeshot said:
Ward did it to himself. Anyone who's crashed a motorcycle on the track knows the first thing you do immediately is get clear of the track. You NEVER walk towards the racing line.
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This.

I'll never forget the time I saw you fall over after the apex of turn 5 at T-hill leading a 600 SB race. You stopped sliding with your head facing uphill and you rolled out of the racing line off the edge of the track.

If Ward had vacated the track, he'd be alive today.
 
Nucking Futs said:
This.

I'll never forget the time I saw you fall over after the apex of turn 5 at T-hill leading a 600 SB race. You stopped sliding with your head facing uphill and you rolled out of the racing line off the edge of the track.

If Ward had vacated the track, he'd be alive today.
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if all those women vacated their dates with ted bundy, they might still be alive too..
 
Holeshot said:
Ward did it to himself. Anyone who's crashed a motorcycle on the track knows the first thing you do immediately is get clear of the track. You NEVER walk towards the racing line.
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I don't understand why you intentionally ignore the other half of the equation. As if it's impossible to do anything intentionally harmful/risky to someone who does something stupid. It's two things. Ward was dumb to get out if his car *and* Stewart was an asshole trying to give him a little braap-fu, but killed him instead. You can't use knowledge of racing motorcycles to explain Ward's actions and omit racing knowledge with Tony. He gave him a little braap-fu, anyone who's ridden dirt for any period of time has seen in a thousand times.
 
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I covered the solution to this a looooong time ago.

Don't make me find more bee cases to back this up.
 
Aaron Hernandez was acquitted of the murders of the two men that led him to kill the third guy, the murder he's spending life in prison for. :facepalm

See Tony, there's hope. :thumbup
 
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