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New Husky SM - 319 lbs and 67 HP
- Thread starter ilikefood
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Lmfao no not yet
Are you keeping hyper?
Jebus 320 pounds, with same engine as duke 690, but lighter then duke 690.
redtail
only ones and zeroes
But didn't Husky bolt in the latest 690 motor? The '08 SMC had 654cc for their "690" and later bumped it up to the full 690, that's what's in the Duke and the European SMC.
Damn funky if they're using the earlier engine!
Z3n
Squid.
But didn't Husky bolt in the latest 690 motor? The '08 SMC had 654cc for their "690" and later bumped it up to the full 690, that's what's in the Duke and the European SMC.
Damn funky if they're using the earlier engine!
Nah this is the new engine with ride by wire, for sure.
But it's still basically the same bike as the 690 SMC, just with ABS.
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alien
That seat would catch my attention. I broke my coccyx (tailbone) on my 2010 690 and couldn't ride comfortably for a year. And that was with the ktm powerparts gel seat.
The seat is a make or break deal for me.
Sweet bike thought
mitiasbikes
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- San Jose CA
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- 2024 KTM 890SMT
2023 Husqvarna 701SM
- Name
- Dominique
Will definitely buy this, when on sale in US ?
RightCoastBias
F8TRED
2016
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alien
Will probably be $12K. Thats a lot for a SM
RightCoastBias
F8TRED
Looks like it'll be closer to 7.
Pierre I am
What is life
If that's the case I'll probably buy one.
stan23
Well-known member
Are you keeping hyper?
Jebus 320 pounds, with same engine as duke 690, but lighter then duke 690.
I have been thinking of selling the Hyper.
But didn't Husky bolt in the latest 690 motor? The '08 SMC had 654cc for their "690" and later bumped it up to the full 690, that's what's in the Duke and the European SMC.
Damn funky if they're using the earlier engine!
Yes, should be the newer motor. I've had both motors. 690SMC, and Duke 690. The Duke motor is definitely smoother and has a nice power kick up top.
stan23
Well-known member
My guess it should be around the same price as the outgoing SMC, and comparable to the current selling 690Enduro. Which is around 11K.
I think the price is a major turn off. I paid ~4.5k for my WRX, there's no friggin way i'm paying 11k for that.
Z3n
Squid.
Your WR has low spec suspension, brakes, wheels, engine, frame, everything else. You aren't going to get within spitting distance of the 701's power without a turbo, and even then you're only gonna get a few rides before your crankcase has some fresh holes it at the amount of boost you'll need to run.
You can buy a WR250X or a DRZ, and throw an entire 701's price at it, and you'll end up with an expensive handgrenade that is massively down on power, still has marginal suspension, and needs rebuilds every 20k for the privilege of making half the HP.
If you want most of the same experience, spend 7k or so on a 690 SMC. They're 7k still because there's still zero effective competition in the street supermoto space for a bike like the 690 or the 701, and it'll always be worth 2-3k more than any DRZ or WR you can buy, because literally every part the bike is made with is better. Doesn't mean they don't have their quirks, but comparing a WR to a SMC is like comparing a Integra to a 911. Integra's a totally acceptable car, but it's not even close from a performance standpoint.
Also of note is that the SMC is not a bike that suffers fools, so if you're not ready to get on the thing and wring it within an inch of it's life, it's a bad choice as a motorcycle. If you know what to do with it, it's unstoppable, but buyer beware if your ambition outweighs your talent. The WR/DRZ doesn't have enough power or performance to demand the same respect from the rider, and that's why they're so popular. The 701 with the new engine might be a bit more usable, it might be the same firebreather that the SMC was.
You can buy a WR250X or a DRZ, and throw an entire 701's price at it, and you'll end up with an expensive handgrenade that is massively down on power, still has marginal suspension, and needs rebuilds every 20k for the privilege of making half the HP.
If you want most of the same experience, spend 7k or so on a 690 SMC. They're 7k still because there's still zero effective competition in the street supermoto space for a bike like the 690 or the 701, and it'll always be worth 2-3k more than any DRZ or WR you can buy, because literally every part the bike is made with is better. Doesn't mean they don't have their quirks, but comparing a WR to a SMC is like comparing a Integra to a 911. Integra's a totally acceptable car, but it's not even close from a performance standpoint.
Also of note is that the SMC is not a bike that suffers fools, so if you're not ready to get on the thing and wring it within an inch of it's life, it's a bad choice as a motorcycle. If you know what to do with it, it's unstoppable, but buyer beware if your ambition outweighs your talent. The WR/DRZ doesn't have enough power or performance to demand the same respect from the rider, and that's why they're so popular. The 701 with the new engine might be a bit more usable, it might be the same firebreather that the SMC was.
Tharkûn
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It seems to me your preaching to newbs in your mind that should take your words as gospel.
The SMC690/690R are bad ass bikes but by no means so superior in performance as you try to make it sound.
On a go kart track decent sorted WR450 or Husky 450 it would be more than a match and even on a big track the SMC wouldn't run away. The difference in weight and the much racier, shorter stroke engines help with that.
In the real world its only as good as the rider on it.
The big plus of the SMC is big horsepower [for a supermoto] in a relatively low maintenance engine compared to 450/500's
For my money a second hand Husky 610SM gets you 80% of the performance for 50% of the price and a DRZ gets you 90% of the fun for 35% of the price.
Its not a knock on the SMC, again, bad ass bike. But your Integra/911 comparison is ridiculous at best.
DRZ400SM vs Husaberg FS570SM thats more likely to fit your analogy.
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alien
Maybe Civic vs Subaru WRX
Z3n
Squid.
The rider is always the deciding factor. I know some folks who go places I wouldn't go on a trials bike on a 690 Enduro.
We're not talking about MX bikes with 300 mile oil change intervals though. We're talking about street bikes. The DRZ and the WR are roughly the same weight as the KTM, with half or less power, and lower spec components. By the time you upgrade a used or new DRZ/WR to anything resembling close to new/used 690/701 spec, you have a significantly worse bike for significantly more money.
I know because I did it with DRZ400SMs. Big bore kits, suspension, ohlins, blah blah blah blah blah. Then I rode a 690 and was like "whelp, DRZ is suck, should have bought the 690" and parted the bike to buy a 690.
Every time this comes up some DRZ or WR defender assumes that I haven't been down that road. Of course, 80% of them just do the same thing I did, like I did, so I dunno why I bother.
A Husky 610 (or even the 690 non-SMC models) aren't actually in the same ballpark of performance. Once you get to the point where you ride a bike that can do a 5th gear 70mph balance point wheelie, you're just forever spoiled.The Husaberg FS570 is more like a kit car than a production road-going vehicle (lacks gauges with gear indicator, ABS, etc). The overseas 690s (and likely this 701) have ABS and will probably get TC eventually - they've got the creature comforts of a full on street bike, unlike the 570.