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NHTSA opens inquiry on BMW final drive failures

ITS GOT TORQUE!!!! (or whatever harley guys yell when they need someone else to tell them they made a good decision.)

I want one cuz the fit and finish is awesome. The metal bolts and bars and hardware look great. They also go straight on the freeway better than anything else.


You should just go ahead and admit that you want to be like 007
 
You should just go ahead and admit that you want to be like 007

Yes but not that gay one. The cool one.
And wtf?!?!?! Another bond had goddamn lotus that went under water and shot torpedoes. This one got a cruiser! A goddman cruiser! Like half a notch above giving him a Burgman.
 
The cool one had really good abs and funny muscular body that was sculpted by drugs and personal trainers. He had really nice slacks too.
But I still swear I don't wanna be the gay one.

Oh you meant the actor portraying James Bond, not the bike. :laughing
 
Not sure how you got BMW admitting chains are more dependable than their shaft drives from "dependable chain drive." There's no relative statement of any kind there, just marketing bullets. I'm pretty sure the F800R is the only modern Beemer with chain drive, and the marketers would need to address that in a gentle way.

Anyway, what were they going to say? "Greasy, high maintenance, pain in the ass chain drive.?"
S1000RR, F650GS(twin), F800GS, G650GS, 450X, G650X series ... as well use chains.
F800S and ST continue to use a belt drive.
 
ITS GOT TORQUE!!!! (or whatever harley guys yell when they need someone else to tell them they made a good decision.)

I want one cuz the fit and finish is awesome. The metal bolts and bars and hardware look great. They also go straight on the freeway better than anything else.

They all have excellent fit and finish. Why not get one that isn't ugly and slow. And I seriously dispute your statement that the engines are boring. If you really think that, you're doing it wrong. Most modern Boxers (with the likely exception of the ugly stepsister you want) are eminently rideable and fun.


FWIW, I was all set to buy a used R1100S but the engine was "so boring" :rofl I bought a R1200R instead. That engine is amazing - but you know that. And my choice was really about the passenger accommodations, luggage, and pure sexiness of the Classic in the showroom. The R1100S is a lovely machine.

S1000RR, F650GS(twin), F800GS, G650GS, 450X, G650X series ... as well use chains.
F800S and ST continue to use a belt drive.

Jesus Christ, I don't know how I forgot about all of those. As I was typing I was thinking to myself, "That can't be right..." so never mind what I said about the only modern BMW with chain drive. :facepalm
 
FWIW, I was all set to buy a used R1100S but the engine was "so boring" :rofl I bought a R1200R instead. That engine is amazing - but you know that. And my choice was really about the passenger accommodations, luggage, and pure sexiness of the Classic in the showroom. The R1100S is a lovely machine.

It certainly is. Although I don't see how it could be boring. :x
 
Most of them are sold hook line and sinker. BMW will have to raise msrp next year to offset this and the fanboys will still be happy to buy. It's more expensive.....that must mean they made the greatest bike on earth even better!!!

I love how you say that bullshit about BMW's but you ignore the fact that the JDM "fanboys" would do the same thing. :rolleyes
 
I dont think any real JDM fanboys have have enough money to be true company fan boys. I don't think I've said any bullshit about BMW's. Are you referring to all the times over the years I've warned people about exploding expensive driveshafts and had barfers tell me I'm full of shit and it never happens?

Any one who's in the true Japanese sportbike fanboy catagory really just wishes they had a Ducati, but I didn't know we had that many JDM bikes here to begin with.
 
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I dont think any real JDM fanboys have have enough money to be true company fan boys. I don't think I've said any bullshit about BMW's. Are you referring to all the times over the years I've warned people about exploding expensive driveshafts and had barfers tell me I'm full of shit and it never happens?

Any one who's in the true Japanese sportbike fanboy catagory really just wishes they had a Ducati, but I didn't know we had that many JDM bikes here to begin with.

No, I'm referring to that bullshit fanboy comment. You've made a lot of assumptive generalizations in your last two posts in this thread.
 
In general BMW fanboys, car and moto, will always think BMW's are the absolute best and worth every penny. They will say and trick themselves to think anything to continue believing BMW's are the best.

Lots of them say a 90k 15 year old BMW is just broken in and is wroth a rediculous amount.
 
In general BMW fanboys, car and moto, will always think BMW's are the absolute best and worth every penny. They will say and trick themselves to think anything to continue believing BMW's are the best.

Lots of them say a 90k 15 year old BMW is just broken in and is wroth a rediculous amount.

You're ignoring the fact that since it's their money they're spending, what matters to them is all that really matters. If you don't like it, then stop worrying about what other people do.

And the only thing that sets the prices of the used models is what the market will bear. Not what "lots" of other owners think.
 
You're jumping topics. I don't care what you buy. I do feel obligated to give good advice to somone asking how they should spend four to fifteen thousand dollars.
Those people feel a need to ask. That means they're uncertain, or don't know anything about anything and want real world advice.

If you wanna spend your $20k on a HD or BMW or anything else I wouldn't I really don't care. If you want an opinion I'll give you mine but what you do with your money has no effect on me. Actually it's better if you buy junk I don't want because the junk I want will become a little cheaper.
 
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